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There’s currently a lot of buzz on the internet about a “travel company” called TVI Express – “Travel Ventures International.” Most of my personal contacts in the MLM industry are very familiar with the TVI Express fad, and quite a few random individuals have sent me e-mails asking for my honest opinion regarding TVI Express’ business opportunity component.
Well… You asked for honesty, and you’re going to get it…
TVI (Travel Ventures International) Express membership involves a one time payment of $250. The company uses a “cycler” payment method through 2 matrices to reward its members, and each membership position requires personal recruits before the position is eligible to cycle out at the top levels. Once you cycle through the first 2×4 matrix, you earn $250 + a travel voucher “valued at another $250″ and you then progress to next 2×4 matrix known as the “Express Board.” If you cycle through this board, you will receive $10,000 in cash and yet another travel voucher, which is supposedly worth $5,000, for a total of $15,000 worth of rewards.
Sounds good when you put it that way, doesn’t it? “Just join TVI Express, refer a couple people, and in 30-60 days you can find yourself $15,500 richer!” Unfortunately, the cycler payout system through matrix positions is NOT as glorious or lucrative as many of the advertisements or presentations would like you to believe. In fact, going a little farther, TVI Express is ringing scam bells that many of its own members have yet to notice.
Here are two of the main problems with the “cycler” model utilized by TVI Express:
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1. Very little emphasis is placed on the product / service itself.
Most people are joining this program because of all the hype attached to the cycler payouts themselves. Some of them have absolutely no idea how the payment system operates; they just joined because people claimed they were “getting paid.” If you investigate any number of TVI Express promotional websites, forum communities, blogs, etc. you’ll notice that vast majority of them strictly embellish the opportunity to receive a sizable chunk of money, while hardly focusing on the benefits of the travel club membership.
Furthermore, I have yet to read one excited testimony about the fair value benefits of the travel vouchers offered for the $250 membership price OR through the matrix bonuses. The only issue that most (if not all) TVI Express members seem to be concerned about is the “fast cash.”
What’s the underlying problem here? Useful, competitive products / services are required for a MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) opportunity to be considered legal and ethical in most (if not all) countries. If the FTC decides to dig in to TVI Express while it grows in popularity, I believe they will find that most members strictly joined for the “money making opportunity” and pushed the travel services aside. In a situation such as this, the FTC would most likely rule TVI Express an illegal pyramid scheme because the products / services were neglected. Let us not forget the fate of YTB (Your Travel Biz), the former “travel business” that was shut down a year ago by the FTC and declared an illegal pyramid scheme because the vast majority of its members were not even using the discount travel services offered through the company.
MLM gurus will probably also notice that commissionable rewards from the TVI Express cycler are strictly paid out through new enrollments; NOT as a direct result of sales from the travel services. This aspect will most likely result in a “double-whammy” against the company, since the FTC highly frowns upon MLM businesses that don’t use sales volume from the products / services as a basis for commission payments.
At this point, some people reading this article so far may be thinking- “Why should I care about what the FTC thinks? TVI Express isn’t even located in the United States.” This may be true (which brings up another point about how suspicious TVI Express’ awkward locations and registration materials are for a “UK-based” company, though I’m not going to get into that so much since the technical business model is the subject of scrutiny here); however, if TVI Express continues grow with the same levels of momentum, you can bet that that the FTC will take notice and conduct an investigation.
If the FTC feels that TVI Express is operating within an unethical or illegal business model, they can order the company to cease it’s operations on all U.S. based soil and then declare all current U.S. citizen’s profits in TVI Express as “illegal gains.” From there, the FTC would most likely seize the illegal gains from TVI Express builders and participants that earned the most. Although this process may seem somewhat ruthless and hard to believe, the FTC has done it several times before and you can be sure they wouldn’t hestitate to go through the same motions once again if TVI Express grows out of control.
I can’t necessarily predict whether or not the FTC will intervene or not at this point. Quite frankly, though these actions are possible, I have doubts it will come to this. The FTC may not even have the chance to act, which brings me to the problem with cycler models…
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2. Cyclers are NOT built to last for the long run!
Even assuming that the U.S. or other governments don’t interfere with TVI Express as it stands now, eventually the program will collapse due to the inevitable consequences of market saturation. All cycler programs with matrix progression go through a period of tremendous excitement and exponential growth; however, this period is quickly followed up with a short dive off a steep cliff. Since cyclers involve a one-time payment for infinite months of membership, eventually the market runs dry of people with interest and capital to continue to feed the program and push current members through the matrix.
2 years ago, I actually joined similar cycler programs known as Diamond Cash Club and the Getaway Club in 2007, both of which proved to be cycler scams. I didn’t fully understand the concept behind the cycler payplan at the time, or I would have never even considered involvement with either of them. Both programs proved to be very popular for well over 1 year, yet if you searched for current discussion about either of these programs now in 2009, you’ll essentially find nothing more than gravestones marking the excitement that died off after 2008. Both sites disappeared once saturation struck their cycler models. The owners of each program most likely walked away with millions of dollars, while the majority of members were stuck sitting in the first matrix board – No progression, no profit, and nothing to show for their membership fees (or “investment” as some called it).
In the aftermath of cyclers, very few people as a percentage of all members can honestly claim they made a profit. Unfortunately, the payment structure is designed to immediately reward the owners of the scheme, but only payout previous members once an entire new wave of newbies come to the table with $250 each.
But isn’t $250 the maximum that anyone in TVI Express can lose? NO – Not necessarily!
You may look at the TVI Express and scenario and think – “Well, it looks like losses are capped at $250.” However, that is not technically true! Many teams and building networks actually encourage their new members to purchase multiple positions for $250 each, without even fully explaining to them that each new position will require even more recruiting efforts before it can be pushed out to a level of profit. Therefore, you will eventually hear horror stories from people along the lines of – “I spent thousands of dollars in TVI Express and I haven’t seen a penny of profit yet! What do I DO?!”
In fact, during the past week alone, two of my business partners mentioned that they know people that have purchased several positions in TVI Express with nothing to show for it. While one of these individuals only purchased 3 positions, the other spent over $10,000 for TVI Express matrix board spots! Unfortunately, unless they are expert marketers or heavy recruiters, neither will ever see a profit.
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It appears that many people who joined TVI Express did so because a recruiter or marketer led them to believe that they could simply pay $250, quickly cycle to the top, and then grab a quick $15,000. In other words, they don’t even understand how their own business works! What many of these people were NOT told is that successfully cycling and progression to profit requires a great deal of recruiting and strategic team placement. It’s these people I feel sorry for the most, because soon enough, people in TVI Express will realize that their $250 membership isn’t moving. TVI Express momentum will die down, and their matrix positions will be stuck in the mud. At this point, I expect many people will also dub the program a “SCAM” and hang their heads with disappointment.
Once again, I would agree that TVI Express has drawn an exceptional amount of attention when compared to the average internet opportunity today. However, the downfall of cycler programs is inevitable, and I fear TVI Express has essentially reached the height of its popularity.
My advice to MLM leaders and all respectable marketing networks – if you’re currently looking at TVI Express and trying to debate whether or not you want to involve yourself and your team with it’s “business opportunity,” turn around and don’t look back! As stated earlier, major recruiters may find themselves at the top of the final matrix and earn some money; however, it will come at the cost of leading several other people into a program that will only leave them $250 poorer. As a responsible MLM leader or marketer, you should be recommending programs that are built to last for the long-term and structured in a legal, profitable way for all members. TVI Express does NOT pass the test! If you have your heart set on a Travel MLM company, find another!
In conclusion, TVI Express and its red flags may not necessarily relate to the typical ponzi scheme aspects that the Ponzi Scheme Alert organization usually attempts to address, but it does show all the signs of the cycler “get-rich-quick” scam and would most likely fall under the “illegal pyramid scheme” definition by FTC standards.
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During the discussion of some of my former articles warning about other dangerous programs, I was asked by many people if I knew of any respectable, profitable opportunities as substitutes. Therefore, I will offer an alternative to those interested, but I will not be discussing it in great lengths here since the topic is TVI Express:
If regards to TVI Express, if anyone reading this article is angry about their failure to receive a profit and looking for a long-term option – or maybe you passed on joining TVI Express and are looking for something profitable in general – I do work for a network that provides passive income opportunities to all it’s members, even if they never recruit a single sole. The business model is ethical, and does not consist of any ponzi scheme, pyramid scheme, or other scam based elements. You can contact me here for more information: Info@PonziSchemeAlert.com
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- Mr. Ryz
A downline in my other business showed us Tvi Express last month. I told him he was in a scam, and, for that, I was called clueless and closed minded, oh brother.
Bad luck, I ‘m afraid, now it’s been 30 days past when he thought he was going to make all this money, and he, as of now, is still in the poorman’s gutter. I didn ‘t want to see this happen, it hurts us all, and if people just stuck with good MLM business, we wouldn’t have to worry about these scams.
Heya Rob,
You were the smart one! I did join TVI EXPRESS and it looks like I’ll be out 250 big ones. The way the matrix pays you is poorly explained and once I joined I found that some people never move out of the first board. You can sit there forever and rot! I don’t know if I’d call it scam but it is a bad business.
Ooo, sorry to hear it. I umm, don’t want to sound negative, but I would have to call this a scam, if for nothing more than people are being deceived when they join. I know some people are making money but that doesn ‘t make it right for those in your shoes, who paid and aren’t seeing any light at the end of the tunnel.
I do hope you at least see your money back, and I wish you well.
This does sound a lot like the Getaway Club. I was in that scam and lost almost $500 because we fell for the buy multiple spots hype. RRRrr! Since Getaway Club is dead and buried do you think the admin of Tvi Express could be the same scam artist behind Getaway Club??
Hello Jewlbiz,
I agree, TVI Express does indeed have it’s similarities to the Getaway Club. Although it is possible that the Getaway Club Owner / Administrator is the same individual that currently operates TVI Express, I haven’t seen any strong evidence that would suggest the two are the same.
On that note, however, I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if the mysterious individuals who run some of these cycler programs have gone through a multitude of programs. When one cycler loses its momentum, they can always attempt to create another. Be careful.
- Mr. Ryz
Nice blog and I think you put it straight. I have seen tvi heavily promoted and knew to stay out of it. Never seen any cycler last for 2 years and tvi doesn’t seem like its built to beat the odds.
I’m not interested in this and I never will be. Just apply some MLM knowledge here. How can someone earn $15000 or even $10000, taking the travel coupons out, from that little $250 purchase without shafting a large group of other people? That’s not possible unless they’re running a charity! TVI is more get rich quick appeal to the desperate and inexperienced. They have quite a crowd now but it won’t matter in a year or two.
THANK YOU!!!!!
I have THREE people chomping at the bit to recruit me and other people into this!! I told them what it was and they would NOT LISTEN TO ME!!! They are going to LOSE MONEY and I have NO desire to jump into the coffin with them!
NEITHER of them have made money IN 3 MONTHS!! They said they would have it back the FIRST MONTH!!
STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM!!!!!!!
Tvi Express is a scam, and some of its promoters know better. They brag about their earnings but that story might change once the lawsuits start flying.
You want to mouth off about your earnings TVI people? You sure as red hell better hope your referrals make some money out of this, or they’re going to come after you and those 5 digits you’ve acquired at their expense.
Many TVI Express willies are going to start whining to the moon and when that happens, get ready to see the shit hit the fan.
One of my business partners is also issuing warnings against TVI Express on his blog in a similar nature. He wrote a follow-up yesterday and some random TVI Express supporter added him on YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and reprimanded his TVI warning article, claiming he was only being “negative” about TVI to boost his personal marketing agendas.
Isn’t that quite the convenient excuse for a member that belongs to a company with a service (or product) of little to no proven quality and mysterious owners that have been frantically moving funds all over the world?
Sorry, folks. You don’t have to entertain a major, personal agenda or assume the position of “Master Sage of the Earth” to realize the problem with this TVI Express scam. People who have been “around the block” and are already familiar with cycler programs or MLM / home-based businesses in general can see right through the smoke.
Whether some people want to play the “agenda” card or not doesn’t change the fact that TVI Express reeks of scam signs.
- Mr. Ryz
I was just called NEGATIVE when I told those travel ventures people about pyramid schemes!!
They ALWAYS HAVE SOME STUPID EXCUSE!!! Most of them only care about the MONEY! Don’t let their excuses get you down!! STAY AWAY FROM TRAVEL VENTURES INTERNATIONAL!!!
Here I thought there was only a few that could see through this SCAM, We as marketers need to become critical thinkers. I spend most of my days helping others learn “How to think Not WHAT to think” So many cycler scams and you all have seen them, recruit, recruit, recruit….I know of ONE place that you can learn all you need to be successful from a group of critical thinkers that have NO AGENDA http:// tinyurl.com/yarherk I HAVE NEVER RECRUITED INTO MY BUSINESS, this industry is built on relationships not the word CASH, Learn the truth and may the force of the FTC,SEC and DOJ be with you!! Thank you Mr. Ryz
An Attorney General would ask these two questions:
1 – Would a logical thinking person pay this much money for the product or service if there was not a business opportunity involved?
2 – Does the income stop when the recruiting stops?
If the answer to the first question is “No” and/or the answer to the second question is “Yes”,
then it is a SCAM.
Plain and simple. If people would just educate themselves first instead of acting on emotions, they would be better off.
It’s companies like this that give MLM a bad name.
DING! That’s the correct answer Shelly! lol
Here’s the very simple test everyone.
Would someone even think about buying that travel stuff if the money opp wasn’t attached?
You all know the answer. NO.
Aloha,
I want to address what fgarcia74 says: November 1, 2009 ….”The way the matrix pays you is poorly explained…..” TVI gives you 6 nights/7days hotel package and even pays your Return airfare! That is far worth more than the $250. you paid to join. The 2 matrix boards work the same and is explained in the graph with names and shows movement. Apparently he/she doesn’t understand how it moves you….. maybe he/she needs to watch it several times until he/she understands it.
Traveler Board pays you $250. CASH (what you paid to join) & $250. eVoucher which doubles your money. Express Board pays $15,000. with the same concept for moving in the matrix. WHY should those that hear about things first and share with others be rewarded if they themselves didn’t fulfill the requirements of getting 2 people? TVI matrix with the step-over is great and gives everyone the same chance to move to the Top no matter when you joined! Those that don’t get their 2 still want to reap the payout when they juet sit on their okole and didn’t fulfill the requirement.
NO TVI is legitimate and look at the wonderful incentives they offer cars, jet, yacht, villa, etc. Tell me where I can join a company for a ONE TIME $250. fee and earn great compensation and great benefits and I’ll join.
You never lose what you paid if you follow requirements and teach your 2 people to do the same you make back what you paid and more.
PONZI is just money moving money…. Hawaii has had it’s share of that.
TVI isn’t just money moving money!
Oh brother. Meleana do you know anyone that has received a car, jet, yacht, villa or any other giant prizes from cycling?
I can see maybe a few of the first people in received a car, but no one but the people behind the curtains will earn a jet, yacht, +
Care to guess why? ; )
All the “professional complainers” make me laugh how you puke out your negative opinions when you are so clueless. I take my advice from successful individuals, not losers that don’t know how to make money.
Listen, you either make money or make excuses…period. Every one of you don’t know what you’re talking about and all you do is follow each other around and cry “scam” because “you are not entrepreneurs” and belong in a “get a life rehab”.
I made $60k in TVI in 4 months and know how to make $$$$$$$ because I don’t work with complainers.
Please, go now and get a life.
A major earner in TVI Express sees an article challenging the potential illegal and unethical aspects of the program and all he decides to respond with is an egotistical rant?
Go figure …
- Mr. Ryz
O M G. TVI Express is a pyramid scam clear as day!! The only reason some grown adults aren’t seeing this plainly is b/c they DON’T WANT to see it! Wake up and look where you step next time.
Yo Tommy boy! you may have made $60000 but you’re still a loser. Go figure alright, bet you won’t continue talking so high and mighty when TVI goes kerPLUNK and all the people you swindled in start pointing the finger and yelling. YOU get a life buddy. You want to play MLM recruiter? well go join something that sells a real product. You’ll get no pity from me if your sorry ass gets sued off like many scam profiteers. What an absolute moron. I wouldn’t join you in something even if you paid my way! WHY? B/c I don’t work with SCAM PUSHERS
Tom sounds just like the fellow that duped the guy in my MLM business to join Tvi. 2 months later, he has nothing he was promised, while that smooth talker probably cycled again.
Ohh they love to brag about their earnings, but they won’t dare tell you how many people they had to bring under them to cycle through to that 5 figure level. That’s cause they know most people they brought in aren’t earning at all.
No friend you’re so wrong because you are assuming [to judge something or some thought without correct information] I am a scammer but I have personally placed new entrepreneurs under the individuals that I bought in personally and I give them the system my group uses and they all have doubled their money to get in back. You see I know that to be successful in any home business you want to work with your group because it’s the most effective way to achieve you and your groups goals. I am far from the typical MLMer on the Internet. I’ve made 45k consistently for 5 years now and it’s because I know how to help people solve their problems and we both benefit which is what a true entrepreneur’s purpose is in life.
I’m not here giving my comments to get into any pissing matches with anybody and I admit I can on with harsh criticism and shouldn’t done that. But it was tough love brothers because I suffered and was scammed big time to often but then I met a husband and wife team that were super successful and mentored me and my son (28 yrs old) in their business and we made a small fortune and it was by helping your people.
I wish I had a pill that I could just have a person, with the desire to succeed, take with a glass of water and the pill would turn the part of their brain about making money over to my control. It would force them to accomplish their goals whatever they are. Look, their are far too many hard slaving good individuals out here just trying to make an extra buck and they fall prey to the greedy ones that are experts in taking advantage of the misinformed. I am not the greedy type. The money is a bonus to me and I am grateful or maybe I have an ego problem because when someone I brought into my business gives me a hug and tells me that because of my help they didn’t loose their home or a single mom was able to put her daughter through vocational college and her daughter takes care of her; well it inflates my ego up a lil more than a tad. But I believe it’s good Karma friends.
Anyway people, hang in there with good intentions and listen to individuals that you know are successful and team up with them. Success breeds success and that’s why it works!
i went to a meeting and chated with some members of tvi express. One of them told me they had cycled throught the express board (9) times. Making 90,000 dollars.He told me if i sing up 2 people witin a week i could cycle through the first board and if i help the 2 people under me get 2 people each than i can cycle out of the express board. this meaning i’ll earn $10,000. it sounds easy to me. Im still looking for more info about TVI express b4 i join. theres a video i watched at www. meetplanb.com it show alot of information about the matrix board.
The video lasts about 13mins. the only way u can seem to keep making 10,000 is by having atleast 2 of ur peolpe under u to keep following behind u and they mention insentives like if u help so many of ur followers to keep clycling through the express board u can earn a lot of nice things which they also show in this meetplanb video. If anyone gets a chance please watch it and let me know what u think of it. by the way the only give away computers cars vacations jets and ect. twice a year and the next ones this feb of 2010.
I thought that was a more meaningful post, Tom, so I want to ask you, honestly, why someone with your experience would get involved with MLM that only pays on recruiting, not products or services as the Mr Ryz author talked about.
The FTC warning is as real, and scary, as the weakening ozone layer. I followed YTB pretty closely. I’ve also been in a cycler, myself, and saw nothing but a greedy effort to hoard referrals, and try to cycle. You can justify your progress as trying to help others, but all in all, you know the world has to run out of new people someday, and then, WHOOOOOSH goes the tower of cards.
I sought professional advice after my cycler drama, sure as they come, it is illegal business model because recruiting gains the emphasis and the travel packages get the closet. I respect you for making a full time income on MLM. I’m working on that myself, it’s been quite a ride so far. But, i’m sorry Tom, your income through Tvi does not make it legal, or a wise business choice. It’s not going to last. It can’t last. The basis of all this alone comes from a guy who makes over 6 figures a year, and his lawyer, not me.
Do you think its possible, Tom, the emotions of making fast money are messing with your ability to see the light in front you?? I do. I’ve been through the cycler trail. I know the end result, and I only know little tidbits of MLM law. I’ve seen the legal research and cycler math. By trail’s end, it won’t be good for most people on your team. If you really care about that team, you’ll start looking at both sides of the table, openly.
Sorry, Tom. Nothing personal. Just the truth.
Tom ;
What percentage of your matrix team in TVI express has taken advantage of the travel benefits offered?
( ** Why do I have the feeling the answer will be close to zero? )
Folks,
It is very important to first have a positive attitude towards whatever you set to do.I have been into TVI since the last two weeks and have already earned double the money that I have invested. The online bookings are on which due to some technical problems were on hold for sometime. After checking I found out that the bookings are very much in place and as soon as one gets the user ID , the same can be availed online. The top management in this business are doing everything possible to set matters right and ensure all legal aspects have been looked into before spreading further across more countries. There are many such MLM companies which may help you make money but will surely happen years after you have started(the product selling ones I meant).Out here you are only allowing another person to get a discounted travel package.I am currently under a Platinum associate which is the last but one rank amongst the highest rankers in this business. This person has helped more than 12 people cycle out of Express board already in the last 7 months and i have spoken to a few of them too. So rather than spreading news which is not true lets not deprive people who would want to come out of their own vagaries of life by opting to go for this wonderful opportunity. Having a great successful upline is the key in this business and I have sensed it already.
Is the glass half empty or half full? I guess the answer is in…who’s making that decision.
If you want to look into a real scam than you should start tearing apart the IRS, wall street, and the federal reserve. Our economy is debt based and set up on a 100 year cycle so get ready to get scammed like you’ve never seen before friend.
So I am out of here because I have people that want to work with me and goals to achieve.
Best of luck and focus on the positive, not the negative because that’s what you will attract.
Tom
Tom and Jonathan ;
So the answer is zero after all?
That’s what I thought. Pyramid scheme giveaway. Game set match.
Excuses or not what they are doing is illegal. You can’t set up a recruiting station without having a secure product.
The news being spread about TVI express holding an illegal, oppressive payment structure is dead on. Just because you’re all too high on the TVI express crackpipe doesn’t mean we’re negative for calling the scam out.
” Be positive , jump on the band wagon , and you will be successful. ” What is this, an Amway reunion? I could also promote a scam and be positive about it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a scam.
I wonder if you people even realize what you’re saying here.
Yeah what the hell is that all about? If I need extra focus on being a positive person I’ll buy tickets to a motivation seminar or something.
Being “”positive”" should only come after you’ve already made sure you joined something sound and legit. Positive v negative won’t change what you’ve already trapped yourself into. It’s still a delicate pyramid scheme no matter what attitude you decide to adopt.
I make a lot of money being critical and it’s all part of smart business. If you TVI Mlm junkies think you can jump into any program, be positive and not care about examining the effects it will have on your total team, you shouldn’t be in the Mlm business. You give it a bad name.
I was solicited.. told I could make 15 grand in a couple months. I started looking into it and found Tarun Trikha hypin up a storm on some interview.. that was my cue to leave. The guy is an Indian scammer, just search for his name..you’ll find his hand in all this. Once a history with travel cycle scams.. always a scammer in that field! I’m not about to get burned by sleazebucket Tarun Trikha..i suggest you all do some real research.
Yes, I am of the same impression. You hear about TVI people making all this money, but what about the VOUCHERS folks. Has any one taken a trip yet??? So I went and joined DreamStlye. It is legitimate and it is great. I talked to the owner and the people who book your travel. The payouts there are $5,000 and $16,000. And again, the product is legitimate and you can really take a trip.
You know i’ve been searching for a good travel biz for a while and thought I may have found one with TVI,and when doing some reading I was sorry to see it’s all HYPE – HYPE – HYPE!
I dont hear anyyone talking about good travel discounts worth the money. The only reason people that so bleepin excited are cause of the money and big bonus,so I can’t bring myself to join this. I think i’m taking the smart road, but wish yal success. .
Ken Russo is pimping this so stay out !!
nothing that thug promotes lasts longer than a year so be warned and save your money!!!!
need a track record ? Search Ken Russo on google or bing and you willl see all the scam.
tvi express will die just like all other Ken Russo scam programs!!
I’ve now seen two people named as if they are a stinging testimony against the company just because they’re associated with it. Ken Russo and a Tarun Trikka.
Who the hell are they anyway?
I was the person asking for recommendations for good, clean, programs and you have asked me to send my name and email address which you in turn would send me info about your #1 recommendation for 2010.
Hello Lorna,
My apologies, as I believe my last e-mail may have confused you a little bit.
To receive that information, just go to my new financial website:
http://www.MrRyzFinancial.com
Once on the site, enter your name and e-mail in the boxes to the left of the video screen, and then click “More Info Please.”
This will automatically send you the full private information.
Best wishes,
(And once again, sorry for the run-around
)
- Mr. Ryz
Tvi Express is a spooky lill program if you ask me. I have a group of people that keep nagging at me to join their team but I went to do some research I found many different team offers and they all say the same thing! They claim most other teams have a lot of people stuck on boards not making any money ..but THEY ARE DIFFERENT of course. It’s hard for me to give in when every same team sounds like a broken record. I can see how someone could make some money with this but does Tvi Express seem like something that will still be around in 20 years? No way and what’s really interesting is that the group wanting me to join is already talking about setting money aside to start a new team for a different company! It sounds like a lot of teams in Tvi knew that all along and will soon leave their team building efforts at Tvi to go to something else. What sort of TEAM is that? This is why I decided to hold on tight to my 250 smackaroos and continue the search.
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Reason: Blatant SPAM / Advertising for the “TVI-Global Assist Team”
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IP: 97.80.174.153
I’d still like to know who Ken Russo and Tarun Trikka are and how they relate to Tvi express. Anyone?
Hi Quickkash I can take that one about Ken Russo.. Russo is a total referral whore and promotes just about any ruddy ponzi scam he can convince the idiots that follow his every lead to join..I can’t understand it but many people follow him into scam after scam and piss away their money. Anything Ken Russo has his hands in tends to fall apart or scam off within a few months…So if you see his name mixed with anything you’d best be avoiding it.save your money!
Autosurf authority used to be his little scam recruiting headquarters along with Jake Amedee. I think Jake retired recently and fled for his life..so I don’t know if Ken still organizes his scamming parties there or not anymore….You should know that you don’t have to just have faith in my words here..A lot of this can be researched by just plugging Ken Russo into a search engine.The scammer has quite a history mounted up online and many people have exposed his true colours.
He is promoting TVIexpress but that’s not the worst..he referral whores himself away to at very least a dozen auto surf or h.y.i.p. scams every year and then finds new scams to move on to. I don’t think he’s the worst crud promoter out there but he is still very bad..Keep far distance that’s all you need to remember.
It’s too bad that people like this continue to think up ways to take people’s money, instead of using their talents to help others make a lifestyle. They remind me of the used car dudes that give hardworking people in the automotive industry a bad name – you know, roll back the miles and sell it to some sucker….I have been approached by some of my upline to look at this…How sad. Committment is the thing that makes a great MLMer. Thanks for your guidance and words of wisdom.
TVI sounded scammy to me so I had someone more experienced check it out for me. He contacted the UK site to inquire about legal company registration and TVI doesn’t even exist. This is all a hoax and scam.. sigh) If more people were patient and weren’t always searching for the next best thing we wouldn’t have to worry about sorting through all these scams.
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Just do the math …. as an example 1,000 people join at $ 300.00 each you have $300,000.00 …. that means only 20 people get the $15,000.00 yes 20 x 15,000.00 = $ 300,000.00 so what about the other 980 people ????
Lets go a little farther with the math…..If those 1,000 people go out and sign up 2 people each , you now have 3,000 people who joined, but only 60 that receive the $15,000.000 , so now you have 2,940 people waiting for more people to sign up or they are out of luck , and it gets worse and worse as this grows .
Help!!!! I invested $1000 in this and can’t get it out, I was told most people moved past the first board in 30 days but I am not going anywhere. I try to contact my sponsor and he does not answer or help. I think I have been abandoned!! What can I do ?
TVI is a scam. All they have is an affiliate program with Travelocity that they are trying to market as a travel club.
Also, do the math! If you start today and really recruit enough people to make $10,000/month, in 7 months you will not have anyone left on earth to recruit.
If you try to book your 7 / days 6 night vacation they want to know your credit card details and they won’t even tell you where you are going.
And yes, I am a TVI member. Because I thought $250 is not a big deal and a dear friend asked me to join.
He has been working very hard for the last 3 month and so fare made only the $500 check which is pretty easy to make.
According to my math he will get the first $10,000 in 2 month and will have to recruit about 100 more people to reach this
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raj4me I don’t think there’s anything anyone can do to help you…if you paid the $250.00 and you’re stuck then you’re stuck..only way out is to go recruit a couple 100 people.
I am in your position and write it off as a loss. My conscience won’t allow me to bring other people to this…the travel service is useless and only big referers make big money..nope moving on and very disatisfied with the way I was treated…bad company. I believe they will pass away and lose all peoples interest soon….we are not the only people fed up
There is a verse that starts off with ” By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words ; These TVI people put on a show that they are good people and care about you , but the truth is they only care about the $$$
Weve all been misled. Most people I know in Tvi express are stuck and those that aren’t do not get full cash value for their matrix reward. I was reading posts other day and someone said tvi express is run by tarun trikha the indian guy thats been putting on phone presntations and stuff. Also that he passes money along to people he knows in the States and this isn’t his first job. This isn’t looking good for us. I joined this to make a little money but……. I just ended up paying money. I should have known better to fall for somethng like this. It sounded too good to be true back when I heard about it in 09. Shoulld have gone with my gut? Yes I sure do think so now.
I have been reading about TVI, it seems to me you are bad mouthing companies so they can go into your network marketing. Why do you remove positive input from people who earn money from TVI. I got in early January and I have received $500 cycling out of Travellers and $10,000 cycling out of Express. You only post the comments that interest you so you can recruit people to go into your networking company. And why don’t you put your full name and real email address, instead of hiding behind the blog. I have been a networking leader for 40 years, some company makes you pay monthly, yearly membership, website fees, purchase product every month to stock in your garage, and match left & right to earn commission. Binary, I think is the worst. At a certain point it stops. I think you need to educate yourself with network marketing.
Steve
Steve,
No one has posted anything “positive” here about TVI Express in months, and many of those who originally believed TVI was a lucrative long-term MLM business have now come to admit that it’s nothing more than a short-term cycler model pyramid scheme hosted by a clever Indian scam ring. In time, you’ll eventually accept the same truth, unless you refuse to open your eyes in which case no one here can help you.
You call yourself a networking “leader” of 40 years and you haven’t taken the time to educate yourself on the difference between legitimate MLM businesses and illegal recruiting schemes promising the “big bucks” to mega-recruiters?
Shame on you. You may have earned over $10,000, but you’ve done so at the cost of leading hundreds of other people into an ugly recruiting scheme that will most likely dissolve before the end of the year.
- Mr. Ryz
It’s interesting reading all these about TVI i usually get miffed @ people who can’t be honest about their true experience with these network organizations.it truly helps to be honest about your true success not sugar coated or your nasty experiences someone could learn a thing or 2 from them. I am a financial management consultant just started network business in january and i really took my time to understand the one i am presently involved with, and i stand as a true witness to what i have been able to taste, now thats what i believe should be the reason behind our joining such plans. I made $3,000. within my first 2weeks i joined travel access club on the 28th of january 2010 and bought 3 positions and by the 9th of feburary my 3rd & last position had paid out and they are all back to the board to circle out again.I was asked recently to join TVI by a friend & i told them to give me time to go through the literature & see if it makes economic sense to me.i am still on my fact finding mission & all these have helped me to make up my mind to stick with the one i am presently involved in and can vouch for going by the earnings i have been opportuned to have made so far. I understand travel access club much better and it has worked for me,i have proof as to that, one of my usernames on the network is http://www.travelaccessclub.net/jumayi.I am not writing to discredit any network organization, i write to testify to the genuineness of the one i’ve tried & also to get similar verdicts from other networkers on other organizations as such for future reasons. if you have any questions on my claim do not hesitate to send me a mail via jummai_abdullahi03@yahoo.co.uk. thank you.
HEY PEOPLE I WAS OFFERED THIS TVI THING AND MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS WHAT MY MAMA USED TO SAY.
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HONEY, IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
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FOLLOW YOUR GUT FEELING…DON’T DO IT…GLAD I CHECKED THIS SITE OUT CAUSE MY FRIEND IS ABOUT TO ENTER INTO THIS..I HOPE BY SHOWING THEM THE ABOVE TESTIMONIES AND INFO. THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS….
Haah no one is promoting this anymore because its a scam. TVI had it’s fun in the sun and now its over cuz too many people have already been recruited.
Some poeple did make nice money here but most got the royal screw. Learn a lesson anyone?! Stay out of this matrix b s
Tvi express is one of the biggest scams I have ever seen! Lost my money here no doubt.
They have no product.
Their matrix sucks and takes forever to pay.
They use a pyramid scheme and can’t keep paying unless newbies keep coming in buying new matrix spots.
Customer support is terrible.
The owners aren’t who they say they are.
Is it any wonder no one is promoting this crap anymore? F U TVI EXPRESS and your scam founders across the sea!!!