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Ponzi schemes masked as HYIPs come in all shapes and sizes, and you’ll find the exact same is true for the marketing themes behind each program. However, I recently received a notification about a so-called “private HYIP” called “Cash Tanker” that really makes me wonder if some of the greedy charlatans behind these schemes have even a shred of dignity left. After investigating the Cash Tanker scam, I really have to ask “Is there anything they WON’T do?”
I know – that might sound harsh, but as we dig a little deeper, you’ll begin to understand where I’m coming from.
Cash Tanker is supposedly operated by a bank administrative specialist known only as Sam Serino. The investment plans offered under this supposed “elite community” aren’t too different from standard plans you’d find with any typical low rate, long-term HYIP. Investors who place between $5 and $1000 with Sam Serino’s Cash Tanker receive 2% daily, while those with a little more cash at hand – between $1001 and $50,000 – can earn 3% daily.
So, what’s all that different about this HYIP resembling a ponzi scheme model when compared to all the other garbage found across the HYIP / Autosurf industry? This particular program specifically markets its “investment opportunity” to Christians, and uses the innocence of Jesus Christ as its key symbolism.
Now, I will certainly state for the records that I am myself am a follower of the Christian faith and truly believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the Savior of the world. While I certainly realize that some people reading this may not share my beliefs, I would expect that most (if not all) people would agree that any acts of perverting a religion’s white symbol of love and peace for the sake of manipulating others and capitalizing on their ignorance and greed is nothing less than a unconscionably low blow and depraved act.
Here is just one example:
And why exactly am I of the strong opinion that Sam Serino of Cash Tanker is running nothing more than an illegal ponzi scheme?
Well, let’s look at the facts, as presented on his Cash Tanker website:
#1. The overall website script is blaring ponzi scheme alarms like a complete madhouse. There is absolutely no specific explanation as to how profits are achieved through investment activity. No proof of legal registration or investment qualification is available. The main Cash Tanker website does include a mission statement, but overall but it presents nothing more than an emotional hook to attempt to win over skeptical prospects.
#2. The returns offered are absolutely ridiculous. 2 to 3 percent a day, which results in 60 – 90% in one month? What market – I don’t care which one you want to look at, stocks, forex, real estate – can guarantee you a 60% ROI every single month? NONE! Some of the most wealthy, knowledgeable traders that produce billions of dollars in profit per month don’t even tackle a mere 5% a month! Is any reasonable individual really supposed to believe that this mystery Sam Serino discovered some magical trading secrets of “massive wealth” unparaled by any other trading methodologies? Oh, and in the process he’s wasting time collecting a few bucks here and there from random people as opposed to seeking out major, qualified investors? All for the sake of helping out “fellow Christians?” That’s some high-stacked pile of BS, if you ask me.
#3. Where is this extra 5% bonus for referrals coming from? Is Sam just being generous and taking this out of his own pockets to reward his promoters? Or are we now supposed to believe that the 90% ROI you generate by the month is now 95% or more?
After stating all this, can I claim that I am 100% sure – beyond a shadow of a doubt – that this is a blatant ponzi scheme model created by a reckless crook? Generally, 99.99% of HYIPs are ponzi schemes, yet there are always the lucky 0.01% that somehow do manage to pull off an impressive, legitimate investment program.
However, if you want to compare the 3 points I listed above about Cash Tanker to legitimate high yield investment programs, I think you’ll be able to quickly read the writing on the wall and determine that Sam Serino’s platform does NOT even come close to matching up with those 0.01% wonder-programs. Sam Serino is running a scam; plain and simple.
I must say it is truly unfortunate (yet not entirely surprising) to see that some con artists set no ethical boundaries whatsoever. They play off as kind-hearted people trying to help victims of past scams and convince them to throw even more money away at another ponzi scheme. Now they use banners and images of Jesus Christ to promote their greedy filth.
Even more unfortunate is the grim reality that Sam Serino’s Cash Tanker is only one particle of the massive trash bag known as the “HYIP / Autosurf industry.” What vile creation will we see next?
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- Mr. Ryz
356 comments
JGreuller says:
September 6, 2009 at 5:46 pm (UTC -5)
Cash tanker is sick and so is Sam. I have lost money online before and it was very easy to fall for scamming people who say they want to help you. I think this guy is a liar who will do anything to steal money and I hope he’s stopped.
crownzaucer says:
September 7, 2009 at 12:11 am (UTC -5)
I also think this is pretty disgusting, though I can’t say this is the first time I’ve seen some pitch religion in order to make a sale. Many of the first big autosurfs often talked a high hill story of believing in their business and helping others because they believed it’s what God wanted them to do. The lesson to be learned here is you can’t trust someone because they claim to be a Christian, you must act professional and research anything you join. Sadly you can’t really trust the average person anymore. Many people are out to get your money and they don’t care if you get hurt.
crownzaucer says:
September 7, 2009 at 12:13 am (UTC -5)
Oh Mr Ryz good post by the way. You call it like it is and I also think HYIPs are the lowest of the low..
Mr. Ryz says:
September 7, 2009 at 2:18 am (UTC -5)
Thank you, crownzaucer.
Exactly – The HYIP industry by itself is quite detestable even before considering the scammers out there who are mocking religion. All in all, an illegal ponzi scheme doesn’t require disgusting methods of marketing in order to make it dangerous or unethical.
- Mr. Ryz
Mr. Shaw says:
September 16, 2009 at 10:06 am (UTC -5)
Mr. Ryz
Do you ever put any of your money in any program you slam, such as Guardian Equity? I’ve been in their program since May of 2008 without any problems.
Mr. Ryz says:
September 16, 2009 at 1:06 pm (UTC -5)
Mr. Shaw-
#1, this is the wrong topic for GEG discussion. Please pay attention next time you post a comment.
#2, no I don’t put money in programs that show blatant signs of ponzi scheme dangers. What fool would do such a thing? Concerning Guardian Equity, I carefully explain why I decided not to participate. I did not “slam” them; I simply raised my levels of concern. It amazes me how few GEG commentors can differentiate due diligence from “slamming” or “bashing.”
- Mr. Ryz
Stephen H Fine says:
September 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm (UTC -5)
Apparently you don’t realize that life IS a ponzi scheme and it is quite easy to label anything financial that way since it all is.
take the social security system last out making money from the last in-Hello? you’ll have no problem adding to the massive debt of that one now will you all? Hey! medicare has racked up massive debts for years! is printing more money the way to solve it? What would Jsus say about that?
Look as I recall it a careful examination of the words of Mr Serino will point to the unscrupulous indescretions of the privileged few and monied power brokers who have recently brought down the banking industry to
begin with.Then of course we can look at the central bank and world banking practices designed to manipulate the masses separate and control peolple.Let’s start with the CIA’s economic hit men who for years have gone in with the flag of democracy and captured third world countries holding them ransom to our capitalistic greed after bankrupting them through the destruction of their infrastructure.
Comon’ will you wake up and smell the internet? People are getting wise to the fraud in the money system and doing something about it. what banking Debentures have you ever traded in the industrial strngth interest rate banking world -Sir-tell it to Keith and Ra
chel you cur! stop nay-saying people’s hopes and dreams let them live! You and Hannity geesh!
Mr. Ryz says:
September 16, 2009 at 1:46 pm (UTC -5)
I agree with the inherent “problems” you’ve described in our financial system today, Stephen. I believe you even made a reference to “Confessions of an Economic Hitman,” which I admit was a real eye opener.
What I don’t understand is how emphasizing the ruthlessness of this chaotic, greedy society is supposed to convince me that calling out this “Sam Serino’s” blatant ponzi scheme perverting religion was on par with “nay-saying people’s hopes and dreams.” There’s a major difference between a world we cannot change overnight and a reckless internet charlatan preying on people’s greed.
- Mr. Ryz
crownzaucer says:
September 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm (UTC -5)
Mr Ryz right on!! That’s some nutball, i guess since the world is so hopeless we should just let those internet scammers rob people blind huh? thank heavens for people willing to stand up to scumbags because if everyone viewed our world as stephen did those internet scammers would be enjoying a ponzi party at others expense each and every day.
Why did all the crazies decide to all come on the same day and post on your blog LOL
Bloppe says:
September 17, 2009 at 6:09 am (UTC -5)
The thing is, 3% a day is not 90% a month. It’s 140-150% depending on how many days month is. That is due to the fact that the daily interest makes money to grow each day. I.E. starting with $1000, after one day you have $1030, and after two days $1060.90 according to this equation: S = M · I^D, where S is the total sum, M is the money you start with. I is the interest rate and D is the number of days you let your money to grow. This means that after one year, S = $1000 · 1.03^365 you will have $48 482 724 on your account. Are you willing to let your money grow for one more year, you will get S = $1000 · 1,03^730 = $2 350 574 577 609. But do not rush, wait one more year and you can probably buy most of the world with your $113 962 259 727 593 242 and four cent.
Mr. Ryz says:
September 17, 2009 at 3:47 pm (UTC -5)
Hey Bloppe,
You have some very good points there. In my example, I was assuming constant returns on initial investment and did not take compounding into effect. Usually this class of HYIP only pays you a set percentage rate based on what you have initially invested; however, CashTanker may incorporate a daily compounding effect. I’m not entirely sure and if that’s true, your 3 year example is a perfect illustration of why CashTanker promises are impossible.
Of course, either way, as you and I have both demonstrated, the returns offered are absolutely ridiculous from a realistic financial perspective. For example, test the numbers for a 5 year period with only monthly compounding. You’ll still come up with some crazy numbers.
- Mr. Ryz
crownzaucer says:
September 17, 2009 at 7:19 pm (UTC -5)
LOL there you go ladies and gents. stick with Mr Sam Serino and his money machine and you’ll be feasting on 100 quadrillion american dollars in no time. LMAO thank you bloppe for showing everyone just how big a joker this phony scamming Sammy really is.
goodreal says:
September 18, 2009 at 1:36 pm (UTC -5)
Sam Serino is one big SICKO I’ve seen his 720×90 banners all over the place showing Jesus Christ crosses and medallions. You can find a hefty bit of discussion about Cashtanker too. Some people need to wake up and see this scam for what it is. It’s so obvious and it’s filthy.
bluedecker says:
September 21, 2009 at 8:52 pm (UTC -5)
Way to condemn the scam and expose the psychopath Mr. Ryz
A Scam?? Yah and pretty easy to tell, shame on those who would lie and say otherwise. I doubt Sam serino is even a real person and its prob just some scam fake name created to sound real.
Anyone notice that the only people that say they got paid are getting very small amounts. Well guess what happens when more people come along and have thousands of dollars that grow to more than 10thousand and all want to withdraw? BINGO it’s over. NO money left. EVERYONE LOSES that’s left with money!
I shuldn’t think I have to explain all this bc it is a ponzi scheme warning website is it not? But if everyone still can’t see past the crappy website and poor taste banners well there you go that’s the full TRUTH!
You want to play in sam serino s ponzi scheme casino? Guess what the cards are so unfairly stacked against you you might as well go to a real casino and hit up slots. I think most people who put money in at this point are going to lose bc this cashtanker scam has survived somehow for a long time already.
It’s going to catch up, the numbers always do and then everyone is going to cry about how mean the admin when they could have listened to us all along. So next time some dumb ponzi junkie comes your way I want you remember this little song I created ….
SAM SERINO is a SCAMMER!!!
Send him to the SLAMMER!!
SAM SERINO is a SCAMMER!!!
Send him to the SLAMMER!!
Heeeh heh now that I look it seems more like a chant then a song. Still good for your own health and the health of your bank account!
Too bad like I said earlier sam probably isn’t even a real person, then my song would have more meaning.
Peace, all!
Be wise and keep your money safe!!
Mr. Ryz says:
September 23, 2009 at 3:38 am (UTC -5)
Hey there bluedecker,
I can tell you definitely feel very “strongly” about Sam Serino and his Cashtanker scam.
I also would not be the slightest bit surprised if the name “Sam Serino” is just a fake alias scapegoat. HYIP scammers are always creating fake names to take the blame once their ponzi schemes run dry and they run to the hills.
Quite honestly, I have a hard time believing Cashtanker can last much longer. Cashtanker’s marketing efforts (for example, forum banners) are dying down, its unique appeal is less than mediocre, and it appears that the program has failed to attract several major investors to help stabilize the ponzi scheme money pot. The pool can only last so long before it dries up.
- Mr. Ryz
crownzaucer says:
September 24, 2009 at 3:09 pm (UTC -5)
LOL blue decker!! you’ve got that one right. Sam serino is just a ponzi toad trying to rob people blind with his scam. I’ll take a round of your song while I’m here -
SAM SERINO is a SCAMMER!!!
Send him to the SLAMMER!!
SAM SERINO is a SCAMMER!!!
Send him to the SLAMMER!!
El fin!
=P
luckyluv says:
September 24, 2009 at 8:56 pm (UTC -5)
Seriously, people, just look at the tagline on the main site ,,
- If you have invested before and LOST your hard earned money… CASHTANKER is for YOU!
- If you like Matrixes, Autosurf’s or Pay for Signup programs… CASHTANKER can make you More Money!
- If you wish to get FINANCIAL FREEDOM in a short period of time… Invest in CASHTANKER!
Choose the Greatest and most Life-Changing program to ever exist… CashTanker!
Doess that sound like a real hyip to you? Such obvious scam DON T INVEST
ze visionary says:
September 29, 2009 at 1:34 am (UTC -5)
Woow. This guy is everywhere. His cashtanker banners are on all those hyip forums shininn bright. Everyone is cheering on sam in the monitor review sections. I didn’t think something so pathetic would draw so much attention but people are actually buying this scam.
Is sam serino fake? I don’t know but when the time comes for the bomb to go off people won’t remember sam serino as the peacemaker he tries to represent in his banners. They will remember him as a betrayer and a scammer. I don’t think it will matter whether it’s his real name or not since people will associate it with pain and loss when cashtanker falls apart.
Who are you cashtanker crapshooters kidding? I have a hard time accepting that people really believe sam serino is running something honest. Cashtanker is just too pathetic. I think most people in it are just greedy and trying to make as much before the end. They just may lose and my compassion for them will be none. Greedy greedy greedy!
CAT says:
October 11, 2009 at 9:30 am (UTC -5)
This crazy. Using God to promote. Just to let you guys know, this program is 100% a scam. The website is cheap and I don’t know about the plans. The rates are achievable in the investment banking area. You just need like 100M to enter into a program like that. Normally those 100M programs can return 40% per week and some do 300% per month.
Johnny Appleseed says:
October 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm (UTC -5)
“The rates are achievable in the investment banking area. You just need like 100M to enter into a program like that. Normally those 100M programs can return 40% per week and some do 300% per month.”
This is a great point about investment banking. Have any of you ever stopped to understand that Cash Tanker is just that?
It IS in fact, Investment Banking and as such you must understand that the investment bankers in the high ranking financial system are making this kind of return every day albeit every minute. Why then would it be so wrong for one them who has decided to turn his life around to help as many as possible within a short time he has left to help.
You want to prove that this is a scam? Then try and present some FACTS. Otherwise you are simply bad-mouthing somethinhg you truly have no clue about. How about an alternative idea on where to invest? Don’t see you offering that. Simpltons just want to be heard, perhaps you didn’t get enough attention as a child. Keep working at it Mr. Ryz you’re bound to get some eventually, try again.
crownzaucer says:
October 11, 2009 at 6:19 pm (UTC -5)
Johnny Appleseed, you really are one dense, ignorant fool if you think this sam serino bumpkin is really the identity of a retired bank administrator that’s gone out of his way to share profits with the little people through a private investment banking operation. he’s spending all his time taking on nickle and dime deposits from random people everywhere and turning close to 100% each month?
Allow me clue you in, johnny boy. let’s say sammy didn’t even have $100 million. let’s even say he had NOTHING. if his intentions were really to HELP people and he really could turn the kind of profit he’s advertising, he’d be better off taking out a $100K loan, investing for a 12 month period, paying off the interest plus expense and then handing out his earnings to the little people. he’d have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in no time at all to help people with, and a high rising retired “bank administrator, specialist” (LOL) such as him should have absolutely NO trouble finding a $100K loan at a competitive interest rate!
Didn’t think that one through all too well did you Johnny boy? funny reading your point as if we owe some other iron proof that this is a scam when any intelligent person can look at the facts and see that this “sam serino humanitarian” act and his investment genius charade is a complete load of crap.
If the cheap 25 dollar cash tanker website wasn’t a dead ponzi giveaway, the next obvious tell was that taking on transfer expenses and effort through hundreds of investors with only a few bucks each is the most demented business setup designed to “HELP PEOPLE” ever created!! did you even take a second to think how ridiculous that hassle would be, to take on accounts for PENNY investors with a system that returns 100%?!
GOOD sakes alive, next time you stop by, remember to bring your head and cover your ass.
crownzaucer says:
October 11, 2009 at 6:26 pm (UTC -5)
p.s. Johnny, seeing as you’re a wacky cheerleader for this scam i imagine you are ALSO an “investor” yourself. once the shit hits and fan and this sam serino figure runs off into the night with everyones money, i hope you have the guts to come back here and admit to everyone here just how wrong and looney you were.
Mr. Ryz says:
October 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm (UTC -5)
Crownzaucer,
As usual, I don’t necessarily agree with the tone of your post, but the logic is sound. The process of using a powerful financial machine to turn multiple accounts of minuscule funds into large profit volumes is logically absurd.
A retired millionaire with such esteemed financial experience wouldn’t attempt to help the less fortunate with a system that requires exceptional time and money burdens through thousands of penny accounts. If such an individual was truly interested in developing a worthwhile humanitarian project, he would have consulted with experts and developed an organization capable of effectively allocating resources to people in need.
He most certainly would not have created an operation that illegally pools investments via a poorly constructed internet site.
- Mr. Ryz
Mr. Ryz says:
October 11, 2009 at 8:16 pm (UTC -5)
Johnny Appleseed,
Your suggestion for offering “alternative investing” options is noted; however, I don’t see a purpose in openly discussing alternatives with people stuck in “get-rich-quick” ponzi scheme mentality.
I do, indeed, have “alternatives,” but quite frankly, I’m not interested in working with people who mess around with internet ponzi schemes. I hold my group to a higher standard and vice versa.
Thanks anyway,
- Mr. Ryz
fox18 says:
October 12, 2009 at 3:27 am (UTC -5)
What a stupid scam. The people falling for this would have also probably followed the Rev Jones all the way to the poison koolaid drinking party where they’d meet their death.
Do the math ladies and gents. Go off that $100-million example. If Serino could really turn that into 90% per month he’d be the richest single man in the world in just one year. Go on two years and you’re looking at $45-trillion, 5 times the US national debt.
Get real.
chris says:
October 14, 2009 at 8:48 am (UTC -5)
I have been in casdhtanker for 4 months made a lot of money, believe it is real and have more proof it is real than you do that it is not. Get some specific facts before you give an opinion that could be true or false about any investment!! i have verified much more info and am happy so far. Not totally sure about anything nowadays, are you!!!
crownzaucer says:
October 14, 2009 at 2:43 pm (UTC -5)
chris, LOL I think I speak for everyone here with a sturdy head on their shoulders when I say……
We would all LOVE to hear what proof you have that this is real.
I just bet you can’t supply us with any sound reasoning though. why? because cashtanker is one of the most transparent scams you can find out there! i think the facts presented in the article summed up the scam signs. So do you have anything specifically to debate? or are you just another happy go lucky cheerleader praising this program just because you got lucky and earned a little money?
p.s. I hope you already cashed your principal out chris. this pathetic scam could fall apart any day and take your money with it.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 14, 2009 at 3:45 pm (UTC -5)
Hardly impressive, Chris. Your a lucky first investor that’s all.
This ponzi will be dead by Christmas and then everyone is going to whine about Sam Serino and how terrible he made their lives.
Chris the only thing you verified is how naive you are, just by coming here and posting that monkey jabber. This ponzi is running out of juice, don’t cling on too hard.
Susan says:
October 16, 2009 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)
If you pull your investment out first and live off the interest, his money (the interest and referral), who cares if it falls apart, you are out NOTHING. If you are smart enough to understand how online investing works, you wouldn’t be wasting your time whinning. The question is, why are people are dumb enough to put their money in “anything” and trust others (family, friends, strangers) to babysit their money. Start small, withdraw initial investment and let the profit ride at your own discretion. You are out nothing. Your complaining would be better spent at a casino. The risk vs return is a lot higher at the slot machines.
crownzaucer says:
October 16, 2009 at 2:23 pm (UTC -5)
Susan, if you are comfortable earning money at the expense of other people that really says something about your character. we all understand quite well how online investing works with these pathetic HYIP ponzi scams and you’ve proven once again that some of the investors are just as sleazy as Sam Serino himself!
WHO is going to care if it falls apart Susan?? well for one how about all the ignorant people that are led to this scam and then lose money when it busts? number two the authorities are going to care, because the only way for someone to get their principal back and earn profit is to steal it from others through the ponzi exchange. that’s not investing, sweetie, that’s illegal gambling, fraud, money laundering and a whole sack of other charges.
Hopefully you’ll learn to control your greed one day. you reek of it.
mike says:
October 17, 2009 at 11:20 pm (UTC -5)
We are know HYIPs are risky.
any investment is risky
SO instead of bashing programs just get a life.
I make lots of money with hyips ponzis..and i dont give a damn about what ppl say because although they are a scam..I can still make money. If u are smart enough you would make good money with hyip/ponzis. SO if you are idiot who can’t figure out a way to make money with hyips just get a job lol
mike says:
October 17, 2009 at 11:23 pm (UTC -5)
It’s all about profits..even Forex or trading stocks.you make money while others lose money..thats the game..if you can’t understand that please dont invest and work in mcdonalds..people ask me if i dont feel bad since the money that i am making comes from people who lost their money investing..and here is my answer . I DONT GIVE A RAT’s behind because we all know investing is a game..life is a game..
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 18, 2009 at 12:02 am (UTC -5)
Jeezo Mike, you’re a regular slimeball and crook.
You not only admit HYIP ponzis are scams designed to screw people over, but you admit that you don’t care and you’re quite glad to steal people’s money as long as you do fine in the scam process.
Good try with your ‘we all know it’s a game’ rationale. You know full well that some people who join these scams are deceived into thinking it’s real. If each ponzi didn’t have it’s own set of suckers, ponzi players such as you wouldn’t ever have the chance to make any money.
Thank goodness the world still has some decent people left in it. If everyone was as greedy and wretched as you, humanity wouldn’t have survived the 20th century.
mike says:
October 18, 2009 at 12:17 am (UTC -5)
Go work in mcdonalds lol
Any kind of investment is a risk
the people who make money with Forex they are making money off ppl who lose money. IF you can’t accept that you are just and idiot.
mike says:
October 18, 2009 at 12:20 am (UTC -5)
Nobody is forcing anyone tho join these scam..they are adults and they are not chimpanzees who can’t think.
IF they think its a risk they shouldn’t join. and if they dont know investing is a risk they deserve to lose the money. I’ve lost tons with hyips but i’ve made 5 times more. Do i feel bad losing money? of course..but thats just how investments are. Don’t act like you are some innocent guy trying to save lives..you make me laugh
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 18, 2009 at 12:50 am (UTC -5)
Jeezo pete. More appalling gruff from our ponzi playing buddy Mike.
Well you’ve heard it all folks. Anyone who was thinking about joining Sam Serino’s ponzi still interested? You’ve heard it straight from the player himself. It’s just a group of corrupt ponzi jockeys trying to play it out and grub up as much money as they can before suckers stop feeding it.
These ponzi jockeys don’t care about you. They don’t care who gets hurt. It seems Mike would do anything for money. He’d probably hurl a 50 lb stone at your face if someone offered to buy him McDonalds. Okay, he may actually prefer the money, I’m just taking an educated guess since he seems to have some kind of desperately unhealthy infatuation with that fast food slop.
Well don’t crave the golden arches too much, Mikey. You keep playing these ponzis and you’ll be forced to beg for a job right along side Ronald McDonald. Hope you like flipping burgers, you’re going to be there a while!
mike says:
October 18, 2009 at 12:59 am (UTC -5)
just because you are idiot who can’t make money and keep your nasty 9-5 job doesn’t mean ppl who make money are crooks and scammers.
You are an idiot lol
mike says:
October 18, 2009 at 1:03 am (UTC -5)
well have fun..i really can’t waste my time listening to your nonsense and whinning about ppl who make money
with hyips lol
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 18, 2009 at 1:09 am (UTC -5)
No Mike. That wasn’t my point at all. What makes people like you a crook is that you willingly participate in a scam and steal money from people that believe they are investing in a real program.
You’re a thief and just as bad as the scammer Sam Serino running this ponzi.
Don’t make too much fun of 9 – 5 jobs Mike. Keep up this ponzi jockey nonsense and you’ll soon find your pockets dry and end up begging for an opportunity to hand burgers and fries out of windows for $6 and hour.
crownzaucer says:
October 18, 2009 at 11:09 am (UTC -5)
Mike, I’m amazed you had the courage to call yourself an adult in one of your past rants. you sure don’t sound like an adult, instead you sound like a greedy thug that has never taken the time to become acquainted with even the bare bone fundamentals of ethics and decency.
I knew there were people like you that played these rotten ponzi schemes and didn’t care who got shafted in the process, i just have never seen someone this arrogant about acts of theft. that’s completely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
PJarve says:
October 18, 2009 at 11:34 pm (UTC -5)
You realize it’s a pretty scary generation we live in when you see people brag about profiting from scams that directly injure others.
Cashtanker is screaming scam and I wouldn’t touch it with a 9′ pole, but that I already knew for sure. What I didn’t know for sure until I came here was that some cashtanker investors were self aware of the scam and planned to profit from others misfortune. I think that’s just twisted and evil.
It’s really only a matter of time before the (_stuff_) hits the fan and these last in investors lose everything. How much longer do you all think this scam can possibly last?
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 19, 2009 at 3:10 am (UTC -5)
PJarve, this ponzi isn’t anything special. It’s about to run its course and it can’t survive past December.
Give 1 month, maybe 2 and you’ll start seeing complaints about people not getting paid followed by the website going down followed by the cursing of Sam Serino’s name on every Hyip forum and on every monitor.
mike says:
October 19, 2009 at 7:16 am (UTC -5)
I am not stealing anything..I put my own money to it too and willing to take the risk. If you don’t know investing is a risk then you are retarded. DONT INVEST MORE THAN WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. If you can’t follow this simple step and put your whole life savings to a online hyip you are a complete retard. Just because you are stupid enough to lose everything that you have investing without a brain doesn’t make others who make profit a theif. And most of them lose 1000s and they still dont learn the lesson and invest in the next hyip. So the only idiot to blame is YOU not others.
crownzaucer says:
October 19, 2009 at 2:53 pm (UTC -5)
mike, do you even KNOW what a ponzi scheme is? Money is robbed from current investors to pay off former investors. So guess what, if you profit in this you have done so by STEALING it from someone else! I find it hilarious that you are so quick to call everyone else an “idiot” in here and yet you seem to be the most clueless scam trecker i’ve ever come across.
That’s okay Mike. maybe you don’t have the guts to admit how sick and greedy your own desires are, but you know the truth and others reading this will see you for the scumbag you really are. Thanks for coming back here all those times and making the effort to show people just how pathetic cash tanker and it’s investors are in entirety.
mike says:
October 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm (UTC -5)
Well how do you know cash tanker is a complete ponzi? do you have any proof? of course not..and how do you know cash tanker is NOT a ponzi? you dont have any proof either.
I personally believe many hyips are a mixture of their own investment with members’s money i dont believe its 100% ponzi. Otherwise it can’t last years and years.
I think you are the one who has no clue about what ponzi is
Social security is a ponzi if u put it that way, casino is a ponzi, stock market is a ponzi, forex is a ponzi because the money that you make there comes from Ppl who lose money investing in forex or stock market as well if you didnt know. so hush dont try to to sound like you are a saint I am just being honest not like you who act like you are so pure but i am sure inside of you, you are the same BS as everyone else. And i am sure if there is some kind of guarantee that you will double ur money with a certain hyip you will be the first one to jump in. lol
mike says:
October 19, 2009 at 3:32 pm (UTC -5)
oh by the way robbing is when someone takes your stuff against your will..but in hyips you are the one giving out your money..no one is taking ur money by force. and also lots of hyips are not 100% ponzi. Before investing read the disclaimer..it mentions that there is no guarantee and it clearly says its a risk.
Is it that you can’t read or what?
crownzaucer says:
October 19, 2009 at 4:03 pm (UTC -5)
Mike, if you want evidence that cashtanker is a pure ponzi, read the article above! i know I’m probably asking a lot assuming you can read and comprehend, but give it a shot, you just may surprise yourself. not that it matters, you already admitted your intentions on multiple occasions. you know this is a scam, you don’t care, and you’re happy to sit on stolen money.
Thanks once again for coming by and demonstrating your complete ignorance on the subject of real investing. Social security is not a ponzi scheme because it’s a government program. You don’t have to like it ( in fact I don’t either ) but the government demands participation and they are the law. People need to wake up and see the difference though since, by that token, taxes themselves would be a ponzi. LOL.
No sirree mike, your effort to compare real markets with legitimate assets to ponzis is your finest idiocy mark left on this blog yet. it’s so pathetic I see no reason to show you how stupid those statements are, as I’d feel like i was trying to educate a loud mouthed 16 year old kid that doesn’t understand basic principals of value and assets.
Let me help you out a little though – PONZI SCHEMES ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL. there is NO asset of of any worth whatsoever! it’s just a mathematical game that must eventually die.
And no sirree again, mike, i would never join an obvious ponzi. I’m not a complete scumbag like you and i don’t like to see people get hurt even if it did put dollars in my pocket.
Your understanding of the ponzi nature is also completely incorrect. any program that uses even 1% of funds to payout through a ponzi scheme is considered a full fledged ponzi! There is no such thing as a partial ponzi in the legal books. It’s either a scam or it isn’t! and sam serino’s cash tanker crap is one of the most obvious ponzi schemes you could ever run across on the internet. oh, and disclaimers don’t matter. a ponzi scheme is ripped apart by authorities, it doesn’t matter what garbage “disclaimer” sam puts on his website. you can’t get away with that in the real financial world.
It’s been a long time since I’ve come across a dense, delusional freak of a ponzi cheerleader as arrogant and persistent as you. too bad, as I was hoping mankind as a whole was evolving.
mike says:
October 19, 2009 at 7:51 pm (UTC -5)
No matter how much you dislike it I can care less. All i care about is my profit. If people are stupid enough to invest in a PONZI and lose all their money that’s their problem. Since you are an idiot I repeat once again. NOBODY IS FORCING ANYONE TO JOIN ANY HYIP. You are an grown up adult you should know how to control yourself and make choices yourself and never blame anyone else but you for being an idiot if something happens. All of the people who invest in hyips have the same reason. They joined to make money. No one joined to lose money. And i am sure 99% of them know this is a game and there are high risks. But either way they still invest so just because i make money and some people lose money in Hyips that doesn’t mean that the ones that profit from hyips are the bad ones. OH well but since you are an idiot you might not comprehend but oh well
richard says:
October 19, 2009 at 8:31 pm (UTC -5)
Mike, if I may……
I think the reason no one else comprehends your way of thinking is because you are a sociopath. Your arguments are repetitions of the same line: you don’t care what happens to other people as long as you make money. That sounds like a severe psychological problem to me, as it doesn’t sound like your familiar with the concept of morals or a conscience.
By the way, Mike, I’d love to hear what research you’ve conducted to reach the conclusion that (quote) 99% (end) of people in hyips know they are games.
Why? because I know that is false. 99% isn’t even close. My brother and I have been involved with hyips before and the people who were really led to believe they were real were much higher than 50%, and I’m being generous. Hyips are dangerous scams run off greed and lies.
I’d say more, but I’m arguing with a mentally disturbed child that can’t comprehend the nature of right and wrong. Everyone with morals is an “idiot” to you.
Please seek help.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 19, 2009 at 10:36 pm (UTC -5)
Alright fellas. I think we’ve let Mike the ponzi jockey have the spotlight a little too long. If we let him rant on long enough, he’d probably find some distorted justification for Bernie Madoff’s activities. There’s no point in arguing with someone that twisted and lost.
So, moving on, when do you all see this ponzi shop folding up? I don’t see how it could last much further than next month, November, and it may just be another one of those ponzi projects designed to blow by Christmas so the scammer can collect right before the holidays.
So I’m going to say 2 months max, though I really wouldn’t be too surprised to start hearing payment failure complaints any week now. This never appeared to be a very strong ponzi and the rates were quite high at 2 to 3% a day. That is 14 to 21% each week, which must be putting quite a strain on the ponzi’s imaginary investment totals.
What do the rest of you think? Any opinion?
crownzaucer says:
October 20, 2009 at 4:25 am (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ, i think you’re dead on with that prediction. just look at that crappy website! this pathetic program wasn’t built to last much longer than a few months and I think the sam serino character is very lucky that he attracted the levels of attention he did in the beginning.
It really is a wonder he managed to keep this scam floating until now. I don’t however think he’ll luck out twice and survive past Christmas of 09. and I want to put emphasis on 2009 here because if you go to the cash tanker site, you’ll notice that sam serino recently mentioned that he plans to officially close cash tanker by Christmas 2012!!
LOL what a joke! if this rotten ponzi somehow continues to breathe past the upcoming New Years i will be absolutely shocked beyond belief.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 20, 2009 at 7:21 pm (UTC -5)
Bingo, crownzaucer! For those who may have missed it, here’s the new addition to the cash tanker website.
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- Principal returned after 25th of December
- Instant payouts
- CashTanker will be closed after
25th of December, 2012.
- Daily interest payments start at 8:00 AM EDT
_________
If you check the website you’ll notice that certain VIP investors can now earn 4% each month which is even more ridiculous.
Between the 5% referral fees Sam Serino is pouring out, the references to Christmas closings, and the increase rates of return, I think it’s time to face the music. The end is coming soon. If you happen to have money in this ponzi, rap up your investments and withdraw whatever you can ASAP!!!
The bomb could go off anytime!
TYrouge says:
October 21, 2009 at 8:32 pm (UTC -5)
this is pure ponzi…….. come on.
i don’t feel sry for any idiot who looses money here. u invest here u deserve to lose!
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 22, 2009 at 1:23 am (UTC -5)
You bet your life this is a ponzi, Tyrouge. I love the description on Sam Serino’s contact page
_________
I understand if this type of investment might seem way out of the “norm” for most people looking at it. One might even think that it could be an outright lie or a scam. I don’t blame you one bit! Most people do not know much about banking, bank debentures, or private placements and how much money that can be made in transacting them.
_________
Maybe so, Sam. Maybe so. But I do happen to know plenty about high roi investment co opps, and far enough to know that you can’t string a couple strictpay or libery reserve accounts together, deposit money in a steady return project of 3 or 4% each day without variance, and payout people as fast as you do ..
Unless of course it’s a PONZI!
Not that I had to let the cat out of the bag or anything. Most people with a somewhat acceptable degree of common sense should have picked that out just by looking at Sam’s site presentation. You’ll find nothing but standard Hyip ponzi layout.
Andreas says:
October 22, 2009 at 2:04 am (UTC -5)
Yes, the fact is many people do gain profit from the HYIP arena. It’s like in the forex, nobody know you’ll win or lose, but through your analysis before funding, (includes prediction) you can decrease the loss probabilities. And this part of factor also determined by how long have you been in the arena, experience do make differences. If you count the maths, it’s really impossible, what kind of business could return your capital in a month? But HYIP produce this possibility, and the heck with how they earn the profit to pay the players, they could be forex players, or someone who is actually collecting funds to do something, and then preparing to close down (evil intention to steal player’s capital). I just don’t care. They have plans to cheat my money, and I think I have better plans to cheat them. If you’re good enough, it’s actually just about how to put the capital at the right time. Imagine when they’ve been survived for 4 or 6 months, imagine people who gain profit at those months before it close. They do gain profit! It think this HYIP could not totally measure with logic, especially in counting where they got the profit. All I care is I should know when to play and when to withdraw and gaining profit. That’s what I call cheating the cheater (the HYIP). ^^
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 22, 2009 at 2:34 am (UTC -5)
That’s flawed judgment. You can’t cheat the Hyip, Andreas. The people that would be cheated in that situation is the unfortunate people left at the end when the ponzi dies, not the Hyip or its admin(s). Ponzi admins close their program right before the numbers catch up to them to make sure a profit is taken, and most of them take a slice of each investor’s deposits as an extra precaution.
Let’s go off that 4 to 6 month example. For every 5 that gain, around 8 to 10 will lose or in some ponzis even a stronger ratio applies. That’s why ponzis are illegal and a violation of business ethics. They are systems that entice people with lies and produce far more losers than winners when they fold up for good.
Just remember, as someone mentioned earlier on this blog, that any profit you may have been lucky to receive is the product of stolen money through money laundering.
crownzaucer says:
October 24, 2009 at 4:29 pm (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ, good updates. rather sad to see how many people continue to come here and justify their acts of supporting something that lies and cheats other people. i guess all this starts to explain why hyips are still flourishing online despite how pathetic they really are. too many children that would like to think of themselves as adults keep gambling in these damn scams.
JonesBones says:
October 25, 2009 at 7:40 pm (UTC -5)
YOU PEOPLE ARE MISSING THE POINT.
All of the HYIP’s are a way of filtering out the US Dollar via the internet banks that process the transactions. Check out the fees and hidden taxes to take part in some of theese. Using these electronic cash generating internet banks to computer script profits makes them money in fees as well as you in the ROI. CASH TANKER IS PROBABLY LEGIT SO LONG AS THE DOLLAR IS STILL HERE. THESE INTERNET OFFSHORE BANKS ARE USING THE FEE’S GENERATED TO SHORT THE USD ON THE FOREX MARKET AS WELL AS ALLOWING THE INVESTORS USD’S IN SUPPLY TO INCREASE(ELECTRONICLY). THE DOLLAR IS ON THE WAY DOWN PEOPLE. THIS IS THE COLD CALCULATED DEMISE OF THE USD, MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!
crownzaucer says:
October 25, 2009 at 11:15 pm (UTC -5)
… What the hell was all that nonsense about???
Mr.Malaysia says:
October 26, 2009 at 12:30 am (UTC -5)
oommon guys, as long as nobody is complaining that their money is lost, we can trust them.
crownzaucer says:
October 26, 2009 at 2:39 am (UTC -5)
LOL thank you Mr.Malaysia. now hopefully Mr.Nigeria will come pay us a visit tomorrow with the advice of the day. i’m going to guess it’ll be something along the lines of you don’t know if a $20 mil princess who lost her entire family and randomly found your email is really a scammer until you send her the first $10000.
SLIMJIM9 says:
October 27, 2009 at 1:54 am (UTC -5)
Yes I see this one everywhere too. It’s just a HYIP scam like any other. I don’t even believe Sam serino is real, try searching for him and you won’t find anything. If he was really a successful retiree you’d find at least something. But nope! Nothing at all.
GB777 says:
October 28, 2009 at 8:04 am (UTC -5)
Don’t you get tired of bashing programs you don’t know anything about? If you invested you’d be making a whole lot of money. It burns you to see christians shining ain’t it just because Sam is showing the world whom he believes in you have a problem with it. I invested 5000 USD and reaped 11 000USD in interest money that I’ve transfered to my account already now tell me? You need to stop observe do your research and get some facts before you make yourself look foolish. If anyone has any question just email Sam he WILL answer your e-mail. And for those who doubt about Sam’s being a real person many have seen his passport he has nothing to hide because God is on his side. Now go get a life
Ponzi CHAMP says:
October 28, 2009 at 2:46 pm (UTC -5)
Quite hypocritical, aren’t you GB777? You demand that we do research and get some facts. All the visible facts and research has already been discussed prior to your ramble. You’ve offered nothing. No facts and no legit research. Just more I-got-paid cheerleader hooey and attributes you can’t prove.
So, do you have anything of substance to add? Or did you just come here to blow up at anyone that doesn’t throw themselves at Sam like you? Telling us all we’re the foolish ones based on the hollow arguments you’ve offered is a rather meaningless insult.
You made money. So what? All first investors in ponzi schemes that cash out make money.
Sam answers e-mails. Okay, how does this give his ridiculous yield returning program any credit? It doesn’t.
“Many” people have supposedly seen his passport. Really? What people? Have you seen it? I shouldn’t even have to point out that vague statement contributes nothing to Cash tanker’s credit.
You’re just another giddy cheerleader, too blind to see the truth, and too stubborn to try to open your eyes.
crownzaucer says:
October 28, 2009 at 10:44 pm (UTC -5)
GB777, wow you made $6000 profit from illegal ponzi scheme trash. am I also supposed to be impressed if you said you earn your living by robbing purses from elderly ladies at supermarkets?
LOL just another pinheaded cheerleader that doesn’t have a clue.
kgknobs says:
October 29, 2009 at 1:12 am (UTC -5)
All these ponzi turds make me sick!!!!
I’ve been had before by idiots that jus hype and hype. UUurgh they just wanted their blasted commission!! Don’t fall for this ponzi!!! I have before and it sucks…… Be smart!!!!! Keep your money!!
mariog says:
October 30, 2009 at 3:41 pm (UTC -5)
i invested in a few of these HYIP thinking it could help me and my family back home in the Philippines….. well i guess i turned out to be just one of them stupid who believed…… according to one of the HYIP programs, i am now more than 200,000$ richer, guess what, i tried to withdraw 20$ since almost 2 months ago and until now, nothiing happened, none of them have office address, phone numbers or working email.. you send them through their online forms but it remains unanswered.. the sad part about this is, for a regular employee like me, even 10$ matter…. anyway, life has a funny way of recovering what has been earned by dishonesty….. you must be surprised…
5 bucks says:
November 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm (UTC -5)
Test this “bernie madeoff” scam with your 5 bucks. If it is a scam, you’re out of 5 bucks. (don’t go to Starbucks today)
If it is not a scam, then it’s all good… I mean I hate to admit it but I kind of understand where Chris is coming from… We are all adults here and we still have the freedom (for now), to make our own decisions for risks to take. I mean seriously, test it out yourself. Throw your 5 bucks in, check it out first hand and have some more credibility. Yes, the website it crappy and it sounds cheesy with the Jesus stuff but seriously we’re talking 5 bucks?
I like that fact that people are mad about ponzi schemes but seriously people… Focus your time and energy on the giant scam that everyone one of us didn’t sign up for but were duped in 1913.
The Federal Reserve is an illegal ponzi scheme. If you truly want to get rid of these crooks start with a full Audit of the Fed. Once we expose them for the crooks that they are, then abolish the Federal Reserve Cartel. Inflation is a hidden tax devised by the Fed and reduces the value of our US dollar.
crownzaucer says:
November 3, 2009 at 9:37 pm (UTC -5)
I disagree. if you treated every hyip that came along on the internet like that, you’d end up losing a lot of money over time. those $5 bills would add up real quick!
OllieM5 says:
November 4, 2009 at 12:34 am (UTC -5)
Soo has anyone seen that site by Scott Kalechstein… He first admits he was done in by Nick Smirnow and pathway2prosperity. Next he rambles on about this ponzi Cashtanker. Talking about how great God has been to bless them through this scam. Reality check…. God doesn’t bless people through ponzis.
What explains this behavior? Greed? Stupidity? Swine flu? Maybe all of the above!! It is just mind boggling to me that some of these people travel from ponzi scam to ponzi scam. This Scott fellow starts praising the heavens as if his profit is righteous and honest. He’s not the only one giving false credit. Plenty of Cashtanker minions follow that suit. No restraint. Just miserable to watch…
ZeloStar says:
November 4, 2009 at 4:33 am (UTC -5)
Yes sir hate to sound cruel but anyone who falls for this is quite the moron. This program is getting old so if you are heavily invested make sure you have a tissue box handy. 3 maybe 4 weeks left of juice in cashtanker ? Maybe until thanksgiving if most people keep trying to compound.
Jason says:
November 4, 2009 at 11:05 am (UTC -5)
I have nothing to worry about..I am already in profit so i dont need a tissue. it will be could if it can last until xmas. yea!! CT rules!
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 4, 2009 at 3:10 pm (UTC -5)
No Jason, you don’t need a tissue. You desperately need a crash course in ethics. I assume you don’t care who you hurt like most ponzi jockeys who have made money in Cash tanker.
Ollie, what site are you referring to? I searched for Scott Kalechstein and didn’t find anything Cash tanker related.
Jason says:
November 4, 2009 at 10:46 pm (UTC -5)
I am happy Period! and thank you Sam! keep up the good work!!!
Ive lost thousands before but finally got everything back plus profit!! I am loving this game:D
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 5, 2009 at 12:34 am (UTC -5)
Yet Jason, as you gain more dollars, you’ll make more people miserable. Is it really worth it to you?
You may have gained here but you’ll lose thousands once more if you keep gambling in these ponzis.
Jason says:
November 5, 2009 at 10:01 pm (UTC -5)
It’s ok I am willing to take the risk. It’s my decision and my money..If I lose it oh well..If I make money..thats good. I am taking risk just like others are taking risk as well so I think it’s fair
OllieM5 says:
November 6, 2009 at 1:32 am (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ.. just go to google.. search for ” Scott Kalechstein ” + ” Cashtanker ” and you’ll find what I talked about earlier.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 7, 2009 at 2:55 am (UTC -5)
Thank you, Ollie. I was able to find what you were referring to.
Yes, I am discouraged yet not shocked to see people confusing lucky ponzi profiting from gifts from above. These groups are falling right into Sam’s trap. They’ll spread false word about his program and lead even more people to this scam.
crownzaucer says:
November 8, 2009 at 2:49 am (UTC -5)
Well everyone i just received my first spam from some jerk about this cash tanker scam. he said he makes $100 a day, couldn’t be happier, thought it was a scam but the payments prove it’s not, blah blah. nothing but your regular sack of ponzi scheme idiocy. Sam Serino doesn’t have much time left, and i still say that cash tanker really TANKS by christmas
Razor says:
November 10, 2009 at 4:17 am (UTC -5)
I have read the posting since September, but i can see that reasonings are not the same but let me say this,whatever the case people are bound to take risk but its just advisable that one should not invest more than what he can loose. There is no harm in trying except if the people posting are just afraid.
Jason says:
November 10, 2009 at 11:21 am (UTC -5)
razor..i agree with you.
They are just jealous because they can’t afford to invest.i lost a lot of money with hyips..but I like it..and i am using my own money to do it.. Its stupid they can say scam scam all they want..it wont make me stop. I lost 2k in asd, 1700 in p2p
but i could afford to lose it .. and i made back with cash tanker and others…so my suggestion is ..instead of crying about which one is a scam..just do something more productive. No one is being forced to invest here. Period
That guy says:
November 10, 2009 at 4:10 pm (UTC -5)
Wow, for people that hate ponzi schemes and HYIPs that much they sure like writing about them … good or bad comments but they’re here.
But any type of money making form has some type of scam or unfairness behind it … just think, it may take you a minute or a week but think about it.
crownzaucer says:
November 10, 2009 at 4:36 pm (UTC -5)
Oh boy! here come the regular ol’ ponzi scheme cheerleaders with their stupid excuses and bird brained logic.
Jason, for someone as experienced as you with internet scams you’d think eventually the lesson would settle in. yeah you got lucky with sam serino and his cash tanker nonsense but next time around you might just lose everything with your greedy hyip gambling. funny you have the audacity to tell other people to “do something productive.” LOL how about for starters you practice what you preach! do you honestly think gambling away in internet ponzi schemes and hoping to profit by hurting other people is PRODUCTIVE? how pathetic!
crownzaucer says:
November 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm (UTC -5)
Razor, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard yet. how the hell does that last line apply in a situation like this with a sure sign ponzi scheme? you said “There is no harm in trying except if the people posting are just afraid.” if you really believe that, “FOOL” should be branded on your forehead.
Since you are absolutely clueless, let me help you identify other reasons someone wouldn’t invest in a ponzi scheme like cash tanker. 1) it’s unethical, and anyone who profits does so by receiving a chunk of money taken from someone else who lost it under deception, 2) it’s illegal and the government could jump in and sue your ass off, 3) your referrals can also sue you if they think it’s worth the time and effort, 4) it’s a SCAM, specifically a ponzi scheme, so taking into account the math there’s a good chance you won’t see a profit before the end, since most people don’t.
Want me to list more?? or is it finally starting to click?
Mr. Ryz says:
November 10, 2009 at 9:39 pm (UTC -5)
Hey Jason,
I’m sorry to hear you suffered losses from ASD and P2P. Toward the end, I started following Nick Smirnow’s deception very closely, and I personally knew quite a few individuals that lost money with that scam as well.
One of my goals is to encourage people to walk away from the shady “HYIP industry” and focus on legitimate, long-term passive income opportunities. So, once Cash Tanker runs out of flames, if you have an interest in something stable and long-term, let me know. You won’t make absurd levels of ROI (such as 90% a month) since legitimate trading performances are present; however, the returns are still very impressive from a realistic financial perspective.
Best wishes,
- Mr. Ryz
Jason says:
November 11, 2009 at 12:11 am (UTC -5)
which one is it Ryz?
let me know..interested in any kind of stable hyip
thanks
Jason says:
November 11, 2009 at 12:15 am (UTC -5)
Crown
I know you lost tons investing in hyips. Maybe that’s why you hate it so much. I like gambling with my own money so why do you care? I lost with p2p and others..so what? it’s my money i can do whatever i want with it. At least i have money to gamble. I think you are the ones who invested your whole life savings in a hyip or autosurf hoping for a big lum sum.
If thats you…I dont know what to tell you
crownzaucer says:
November 11, 2009 at 1:30 am (UTC -5)
LOL, Jason. I have NEVER lost money in some stupid ponzi hyip. hell, i’ve never even considered trying to play on them like you and the rest of sam serino’s chumps.
This may be hard for someone of your nature to understand, but you don’t have to be a mathematician or philosopher to see why ponzi schemes are terrible to play with. Moving past the stupidity of “investing” in these scams, since you apparently love to gamble, you also clearly don’t give a rat’s ass who gets left holding the bag in ponzi schemes, as long as you profit. as with all typical ponzi scheme players, if you are comfortable making money off of others in sleazy scams, you have a lack of ethics and past that I don’t what to tell you either except GROW UP and start looking for investments that can actually last past christmas and, at the same time, don’t screw other people over.
Razor says:
November 11, 2009 at 4:42 am (UTC -5)
Why should forum like this by meant for people like crownzaucer who can’t just give their argument in a way such that people who feels there is a sense in whatever they says be given a second thought, but because of their unethical tone, they waste off their life with time spent just attacking people who really want to be informed.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 11, 2009 at 4:47 am (UTC -5)
All right let’s all calm down a bit.
You two are involved in the what they refer to as the classic cheerleader versus naysayer clash. You’ll never agree until Cash tanker disappears. You may as well throw in the towels now.
In more important news, if you thought Scott Kalechstein was trouble, there’s a fellow by the name of Brad Kamanski that makes him look like a saint.
Kamanski has a series of videos on youtube and he’s encouraging people to throw money into this ponzi and sit on it until March of 2010. Cash tanker will be lucky to survive the next month alone!
You can brag about $400 turning into $10,000 in a matter of months, but it doesn’t do you a whole lot of good to mess around with those numbers if you’re ponzi gambling.
Brad Kamanski openly gives his phone number out too. Gutsy move. I almost have to assume he’s new to Hyip territory and doesn’t understand what he’s gotten himself into at the moment. Though it may be gutsy it sure isn’t safe. His recruits know exactly who to sue and how to contact him once Cash tanker dies off.
shoutit says:
November 11, 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC -5)
Well if sam is real or not will be left to be seen, december 25th would be a crucial test as that is when he is to pay everyone, i am one of those that has been given a copy of his passport, his proof of address utility bill, a copy of a bank statement, had a friend in europe check these documents out, and by the way the friend is very serious about checking things out, and he came back and said the documents are real. So at this point until SAM and cash tanker stop paying we can assume they are real. And yes you can make rediculous returns out there , as i have been given proof by others that you can, and IF sam is involved in this arena , yes he can pay what he is paying for a long time. And i say IF he is. So right now the pendulum swings towards sam being legit, until proven otherwise. But you never know . My FACTS say possible yes he is real and everyone elses opinion until proven true is just that your opinion. NUFF SAID .
Jason says:
November 11, 2009 at 11:16 am (UTC -5)
Crown has some anger management issues. I think at least if you shut your mouth no one will be so harsh in this blog. just be quiet geee. You talk to much. If you are here to complain don’t talk. I am just waiting for MR. RYZ to give me the site where he says it is a real hyip no ponzi or whatever.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 11, 2009 at 12:39 pm (UTC -5)
Quote by shoutit: “So at this point until SAM and cash tanker stop paying we can assume they are real.”
You can assume that if you want, but it’s not wise. I wouldn’t be surprised is Sam Serino is a real person. That’s not the main concern here.
Have you or your ‘friend’ seen proof of Sam’s investments? Has he offered anything to indicate that he has the ability to keep paying everyone even if people stop joining?
You shouldn’t just assume something is real because it’s paying right now. You also shouldn’t assume Cash tanker is real only because Sam Serino can prove his identity and promises he’s going through all this out of the goodness of his own heart. Please. That’s how those big church community ponzi schemes grow so large and end up laundering millions.
You don’t have any ‘facts’ that support Cash tanker as a real program. You may have an opinion based on what you’ve seen so far, but that’s it. The evidence brought on by ponzi red flags is more than enough to overwrite a simple testimony such as yours, I’m afraid. Do let us know if you come up with any proof.
Bill says:
November 11, 2009 at 3:08 pm (UTC -5)
” .. a sucker is born every minute.. ”
Seems to be true..the internet is an open gateway to scammers these days. That crappy website….leading people to believe in Sam like this? Anyone who invested here based on just that needs to learn a few life lessons in smart decision making…
shoutit says:
November 11, 2009 at 4:24 pm (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ, no there is not evidence as you said but similarities between cash tanker and ponzi schemes, But there are also major differnces between cash tanker and ponzi schemes as well, which to some extent will remove some of those so called red flags,
Ponzi schemes seldom if ever, give proof of the identity of the one behind it, never give proof of the address of the one behind it, unheard of to give payout requests within minutes to everyone who asked for a withdrawl instantly , and has been doing so for months, no one complaining of not being paid on time , no one complaining of site always down for long periods of time, no complaints WHATSOEVER, AT THIS TIME. So right now it does not look and smell like a ponzi, but YES it could be one, ,but right now there is NO, FACTS, EVIDENCE, PROOF , OR
RED FLAGS going on in this program, YOU if you want can hope they come up later, but THEY ARE NOT THERE NOW.
shoutit says:
November 11, 2009 at 4:29 pm (UTC -5)
Note to my above post NO FACTS, EVDENCE OR PROOF THAT THIS IS IN FACT A PONZI. (AT THIS TIME.)
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 11, 2009 at 5:00 pm (UTC -5)
Mr. ‘shoutit,’ I’m afraid you may be facing some serious problems with denial if you can’t see the solid evidence that should persuade any normal thinking person to lump Cash tanker in the scam bin.
Low class website, unrealistic returns on investment, no clear motive for providing returns to random people except emotional religious distortions, no open proof or display of registration, no proof of investment activity, accepting money through payment processors that thrive in ponzi businesses…. I could list more, but that should cover it.
If you didn’t note those red flags earlier, you still think this is a wise investment, or you can’t see the difference between the evidence I listed as opposed to mere ‘similarities,’ then I can’t help you. You’re either lying, blind as a bat, or suffering from denial.
You’re also wrong about widespread ponzi schemes and their owners failing to give proof of identity. Want some examples? Here’s just a few ponzi operators that openly gave their information away at will:
Bernard Madoff, Brian Marsden, Andy Bowdoin, Charis Johnson, Nicholas Smirnow, Trevor Reed, Robert Krimm. Yes, there’s even more.
For your automatic payout argument, thank you for explaining that. You actually just gave more evidence that Cash tanker is a scam, because ponzis use automated software that quickly pay out requests from the giant accounts with everyone’s funds that have been hoarding together. Sam isn’t investing. He’s collecting in a ponzi and then slowly dispersing. With a real investment, you’d have to make a request and wait several days for the funds to be settled and then sent to you as the investor.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re new to this crazy Hyip industry. Your backward, emotional posts don’t indicate that you understand what you are dealing with here.
That’s okay. I remain confident that some people who stop by our little chit chat section here will come to listen to reason and not the cheerleading squabble that’s recently piled up around here.
crownzaucer says:
November 11, 2009 at 5:38 pm (UTC -5)
LOL, shoutit, I love how you try to cover up your idiotic cheerleader madness at end by snorting “but YES it could be a ponzi scheme!”
If you want to gamble into Sam’s magical trash bag and steal from other people, i guess i can’t stop you. but don’t keep coming back here to make a complete ass out of yourself with your cheerleader-speak.
Mr. Ryz says:
November 11, 2009 at 10:40 pm (UTC -5)
Dear Jason,
I can send you the private details via e-mail. You can send me your address through my PSA info e-mail listed here:
http://ponzischemealert.com/blog/contact
Best wishes,
- Mr. Ryz
Jason says:
November 12, 2009 at 12:17 am (UTC -5)
Jackasses fighting like little kids..they got nothing better to do.
pieces of junks
timelineprofitz says:
November 12, 2009 at 1:03 am (UTC -5)
lol yea obvious scam. I see it all over high yield inv forums and after megalido last yr I wouldnt touch this with a 6000ft poll. Anyone have money in this? Id take it out asap because those by the time those jingle bells start a ringin most of these things close. Don’t be the sucker. Just my 2 cents.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 12, 2009 at 5:18 am (UTC -5)
Mr.Ryz, I would also be interested to see what you recommend. Mind if I also shoot you an email?
I hate ponzis says:
November 12, 2009 at 7:29 am (UTC -5)
Another ponzi-scheme which will steal money by using “God” and the well known “Bank Debenture Program” fraud.
I have witnessed numerous people investing in such PPPs and they never got one cent. Some even lost their principals.
I have seen people go to jail because they collected money for such schemes and after wiring the money to the “real thing”, the money was gone.
If such PPPs exist (nobody proved it), they would never ever take $5 or $100 from Liberty Reserve or StrictPay and start paying 2% interest the next day.
Never !!!
People who joined such PPPs, had to have their 10 million Dollars sitting on their bank-account, then signing contracts …. and after that they were promised to get paid weekly or monthly interest.
No chance to load $5 to their bank-account and getting interest on it the next day.
But Sam Serino makes it possible ????
Never ever.
Those who still believe that CT is a honest operation, are either crooks who profit in some way from this obvious ponzi-program or they are stupid and naive.
I have seen thousands getting robbed by crooks like Serino in programs named “PIPS” or “FLO”.
I have been at the Hawaii convention of PIPS, when the criminal Brian Marsden had stopped paying his sheep for months, but still they were waiting in a line to shake hands with that liar and thief.
I have seen “born again christians” pray to God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost for PIPS and Brian Marsden and I have seen them losing all of their money and their dreams.
Yes, some committed suicide because of this.
Those who defend such a scam are not better than the criminals who operate it.
Mr. Ryz says:
November 12, 2009 at 7:17 pm (UTC -5)
Dear Ponzi CHAMP,
Yes, just send me an e-mail and I’ll forward the information to you.
- Mr. Ryz
Mr. Ryz says:
November 12, 2009 at 7:20 pm (UTC -5)
Hello “I hate ponzis,”
PIPS came about one year before I became acquainted with HYIPs, but from what I’ve heard, the aftermath was brutal. Your story paints a similar picture as to what others have described for me. Very tragic and unfortunate.
Thanks for illustrating the dangers within these scams.
Best wishes,
- Mr. Ryz
MT says:
November 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm (UTC -5)
People need to start going off of FACTS and not what they “THINK MIGHT HAPPEN”, and what other sites “HAVE DONE IN THE PAST”. If this site hasn’t paid anybody for long periods of time or there’s FACTS to prove it’s “illegitimacy” then please don’t pass judgment until something “GOES WRONG”! I understand people have lost money in these investment companies but that isn’t sufficient grounds to base this particular company as a scam unless people aren’t getting paid, THEN we can jump up and say this company is a scam. While people are complaining about this company, a year might have gone by while the company is still paying people and while you’re waiting for it to crumble lol. Just something to think about before you form any kind of conclusions. This just doesn’t apply to this company but ANY company for that matter……
MT
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 13, 2009 at 2:26 pm (UTC -5)
MT, you don’t have any experience in business or investing, do you? I also doubt you have any knowledge of Hyips. Your words are purely false. Estimates and conclusions are a part of every intelligent investor’s responsibilities. Investors that are negligent and jump into programs only because they appear to be paying usually end up losing a lot of money overtime.
The ‘FACTS’ to indicate illegitimacy were just mentioned 2 days ago, though I’ll repost them since you must have missed it.
Low class website, unrealistic returns on investment, no clear motive for providing returns to random people except emotional religious distortions, no open proof or display of registration, no proof of investment activity, accepting money through payment processors that thrive in ponzi businesses…. I could list more, but that should cover it.
Once again, I remind you, those are the ‘FACTS,’ which alone should make any experienced investor dissolve into laughter upon reading them. If you’re going to pass your money to a ‘company’ of this status, you’re no more qualified to give investment advice than someone who spins the roulette wheel each weekend.
Mr. Ryz says:
November 13, 2009 at 4:47 pm (UTC -5)
Correct. Anyone who really believes we should ignore ponzi scheme red flags and instead strictly focus on examining whether a program is currently paying people on time doesn’t understand the nature of ponzi scheme elements and most likely hasn’t observed the HYIP / Autosurf industry for very long.
- Mr. Ryz
Bill says:
November 13, 2009 at 5:56 pm (UTC -5)
Sure.. well I don’t think people that clueless care about smart investments….. Go look at a site that crappy, nothing but hype and tell me you thought it was real HA.. I’d either call you a liar or a lunatic.
These people bragging about cash tanker are gamblers.. and they know it. If not they should probably be locked up in an asylum somewhere for their own safety…. When Sam runs they’ll search out another ponzi.. and I would guess most people in cash tanker are also in a number of other ponzis right now.
Let them dwiddle a’ound in their own insane rationale… ponzi swimmers are nothin more than greedy hicks too lazy to look for real investments.
zzScott says:
November 14, 2009 at 1:22 am (UTC -5)
In @ $300.00
Took out a little over the top last month,, and playing with $390.00
Will it last ? No but it’s a nice $200.00 a month until it falls apart. All part of the game,
Bill says:
November 14, 2009 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5)
Ha ha… at least your being honest about what your doing in Ct
Jason says:
November 14, 2009 at 4:08 pm (UTC -5)
Yea I know Ct will collapse but that doesn’t mean i will stop investing in hyips. Why? There’s just 1 answer to that question.. Because I want to. Because it’s my money. We are all adults. No one needs to say this and that you know why? Because if they really want to invest..they will no matter how much you cry about it.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 14, 2009 at 5:48 pm (UTC -5)
Well, I must disagree with that a little bit, Jason, if for no other reason than I’m seeing people hype this ponzi all over the internet. We keep repeating the truth because some desperately need to hear it. Promoters are talking about Cash tanker as if it’s safe and secure for the long haul, and that’s just purely selfish and dangerous.
You understand what Cash tanker is and you assume the risk, yet other bigtime Cash tanker cheerleaders such as Scott Kalechstein and Brad Kamanski are leading people to believe the ponzi risk is almost nonexistent. That’s greedy, revolting behavior if you ask me. People are going to spend money in Cash tanker thinking the wind is guaranteed to lift their sails when they’ll really be lucky to avoid a hurricane.
If you want to gamble, as Bill said about zzScott, at least you’re honest and not leading people astray. I give you that credit. But I also think Mr.Ryz and some of the other people here are upright folks for making the effort to warn others about Cash tanker’s reality, especially when we have cheerleader wolves misinforming these people all for a quick buck in referral commissions.
zzScott says:
November 15, 2009 at 1:24 am (UTC -5)
Mr. ryz I just read the part you talked about with the legit program.
I’ll send you an email too, please send me the info if you don’t mind.
JonesBones says:
November 16, 2009 at 12:08 am (UTC -5)
WHO HERE HAS ACTUALLY LOST MONEY WITH CATANKER????
LETS HERE ABOUT THOSE WHO ACTUALLY PUT THIS “SCAM” TO THE TEST AND HAVE HAD ISSUES LOOSING MONEY…
RATHER THAN ARGUE ABOUT PEOPLES HATRED FOR SOMTHING THAT THEY NEVER ACTUALLY EVEN TOOK PART IN.
ME – NO ISSUES. PAYED ONTIME, IN PROFIT.
crownzaucer says:
November 16, 2009 at 12:32 am (UTC -5)
Hey Jonesbonehead the mega cheerleader, you’re in the wrong place for that kind of worthless ranting. the point here isn’t about asking people if they’ve lost money yet. the point IS about warning people that they WILL eventually lose money if they keep playing around with this obvious ponzi scheme.
If you want to gloat around about your ponzi profits and spaz out with your caps lock on go do it at talkmold, moneymucker group or another one of those damn cheerleading circus shows.
zzScott says:
November 16, 2009 at 3:04 am (UTC -5)
Mr. ryz thank you. It looks good and I’m in! Long lasting programs are more my angle anyway , and I’ve been looking for something like this..
Do I just use your blue ocean side link to sign up ?
Mr. Ryz says:
November 16, 2009 at 9:57 pm (UTC -5)
Hey zzScott,
Please direct all further discussion about Oceanside to my e-mail:
http://ponzischemealert.com/blog/contact
I’m just trying to avoid going too far off topic in this article’s discussion area.
Thank you.
- Mr. Ryz
Bill says:
November 17, 2009 at 2:27 am (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ… sure enough, looked into Brad Kamanski..
The guy’s a big loser….. admitted right on his blog he’s involved in 1 of those gifting scams.. lol. Ct wasn’t the only ponzi he was promoting either… whewie!! Can’t believe people would listen to someone like that…
Jason says:
November 17, 2009 at 11:12 am (UTC -5)
Ponzi champ..I don’t like Brad kamanski either..
But i invest my own money..I dont a downline..I dont ask anyone to join..I dont promote cash tanker..All i am doing is putting my own money ..Risking my own money..Never asked anyone to invest here..I am just putting what i can afford to lose and its my money…Just like you said..the bad ones are the ones who promote this to make commission out of them make as much as possible before it collapses..That’s selfish and bad..but i am not doing any of that..i am putting my own money and playing it. And i Admit Cash tanker wont last until 2012 as he claims..and I admit it will go down..We just dont know when. I personally don’t think I am doing anything wrong.
kzog says:
November 17, 2009 at 1:33 pm (UTC -5)
I have been with cashtanker since the first day and have no problem so far. This looks to be ran pretty well over all. I know p2p paid out for almost 2 yrs before closing and they were not only paying out more money than cashtankers, but also a large referral bonus which cashtanker does not have. Off just a $15 investment I now have over $100 in my account and took out about $30 bucks. Not getting rich, but I not only doubled my money, but also have a account that is going to be coming close to 10 times my investment. Just stick $15 bux in the program and if you win you win and if you loose you loose. easy as that.
You would be crazy not to just drop $15 into every program out there. I have and never lost more than a few bucks, but over all way better odds that going to casino and possibly investing in the market for some.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 17, 2009 at 11:19 pm (UTC -5)
And Bill it’s not just Cash tanker and gifting that Brad Kamanski is promoting from the roof. Did you get a good look at some of those other programs?
Does the man have any restraint? Infinitiva, Genius funds, Gold nugget invest, PayDay Quest. They all look like the same old ponzis and gifting scams. An exception may be GNI though I’m not convinced they are all of what they claim to be. For now I’ll leave that one open to debate.
Regardless, he’s running a high yield ponzi festival on that site. I’m surprised he shows a full face video of himself when talking about each program.
QuikKash says:
November 18, 2009 at 5:09 pm (UTC -5)
Mr Ryz I’m sending you an email too. You seem to know your stuff so I’d welcome your input and look forward to your response.
Nordiea says:
November 19, 2009 at 8:46 am (UTC -5)
How comes only small investers keep saying that they are making money? thats just to sucker you into putting up bigger amounts.When someone have invested 10-15 thousands and upwards and get back your money, then come and praise Sam serino.
Until then shut up about the little chump change that you have been lucky to get back afterall, thats what they do to reel in the bigger fishes.
crownzaucer says:
November 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm (UTC -5)
Nordiea, right you are. it’s working too, just look at all the morons that are putting money in cash tanker and praising that snake Sam Serino! yah wait until someone comes along and blows thousands of dollars in this scam. i’ll bet if he or she shows up here we’ll hear some very angry words.
It’s nothing short of phenomenal that cash tanker has been chugging ponzi money this long. all i’ll say in prediction is that if any of you greedy parents plan on cashing out and using your cash tanker profits to buy your kiddies Christmas presents this year, you’re going to have to deal with some SAD children!
crownzaucer says:
November 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm (UTC -5)
OMG have any of you seen the new website addition? now Sam Serino is showing off recent transactions.
Just look at this.
Deposit
U82527XX
$ 8,000.00
22885439
Liberty Reserve
Some sucker just poured in nearly $10 K right there alone!! the madness is starting, what a shame. lots of people are going to lose a LOT of money in all this.
vangee says:
November 19, 2009 at 9:29 pm (UTC -5)
none of u get pts for calling scam.everyone knows it already, just let people do what they want to do.I made $100 and others can yet to, its not over till its over.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 20, 2009 at 12:18 am (UTC -5)
I don’t think people here are trying to earn ‘points,’ vangee. We’re only trying to use a little reasoning to show people how fragile the cash tanker scam really is. I don’t know if you read the earlier comments about Kalechstein and Kamanski, but there are people out there spreading bad advice about investing in this ponzi.
You know it’s a scam. I know it’s a scam. Yet many don’t know it’s a scam, and some of them haven’t even been exposed to internet ponzis before. We’re giving them fair warning. If you already know all about ponzi motions, just go about your own business and that will be that.
Lorna says:
November 20, 2009 at 10:59 am (UTC -5)
Is there any good clean programs that one can get involved with?
Bill says:
November 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm (UTC -5)
Kalechstein and Kamanski… lol
why do all the CT scumbags start with the letter K..?
Brad Kamanski says:
November 24, 2009 at 6:06 pm (UTC -5)
It is a shame that NOT ONE person here knows anything about me but they sure have a lot to say about me and my character. The Bible clearly says, Judge Not Lest You Be Judged. I have turned away so many people who wanted to close their ILL PERFORMING 401k’s and IRA’S (thank your politicians for that) to join CT and ALWAYS insist that they invest with caution and risk only what they can afford to lose. Always! Precisely why I cannot stand the Internet. People have a right to use blatant Slander and Libel against people they know nothing about. May God have mercy on all of you. If you DO NOT like Cash Tanker hold tight to your money and keep your jobs. They’ll be gone before Cash Tanker will…Brad Kamanski
Brad Kamanski says:
November 24, 2009 at 6:08 pm (UTC -5)
PS: I GAVE away more money today than most people make! May God bless you all! Brad
Truthseeker says:
November 25, 2009 at 12:56 am (UTC -5)
Hi Brad, I don’t know much, but I DO know that life experience has taught me that if most people think you’re on the wrong track, you’re actually on the RIGHT track!
I’ve also learned that ‘playing it safe’ serves no one.
I get the impression most of you seem to think that you MUST put in ALOT of money in this thing to start, otherwise WHY would someone be afraid to give CT a try with LITTLE money? Does that little Jesus picture scare you?
Is there actually a phobia for Lambs?
TRY IT OUT with the 5 measly bucks you don’t want to part with and see where it goes from there.
I started out with a little, and since the day after I broke out ‘even’, now I get FREE money now everyday tranfered in my BANK account through CASH TANKER and it’s payment processer STRICTPAY.
Of course most of you aren’t idiots to turn down free money once you KNOW you will never lose your intial investment the day you break even right?
Along the lines of what Brad sez, how many of you think Social Security is gonna pay you back what you worked for all these years? That giant sucking sound you’re beginning to hear, and getting louder, is the Social Security Money being paid out to the retirees of the largest single demographic in the history of world, the Baby Boomers.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 25, 2009 at 1:19 am (UTC -5)
I wondered if one of Cash tanker’s promotional ring leaders was going to eventually stop by here, and sure enough we get to experience the presence of Mr. Brad Kamanski, or so it would seem anyway.
Nice try there, Brad, attempting to twist this as if you’re being unfairly judged. Then you use terms like ‘slander’ and ‘libel’ without even understanding what you’re talking about. Though this isn’t the first time I’ve heard a ponzi runner such as yourself try to fight back by playing the pity party card, so this is all far from surprising.
What’s to ‘judge’ Brad? We’ve only called you as you are. You’re a ponzi pimp hyping up a long list of scams and you’re going to lead a lot of people to lose money, all for referral commission. So, you’re either a greedy thug purposely pimping scams for bonuses or you’re completely ignorant about Hyip ponzis and promoting them recklessly without giving any effort to understand the dangerous hole you’re telling people to jump into.
Either way, you’re completely negligent and people need to be warned to stay as far away from your foolish advice as possible. So you warn people not to cash in their 401ks? You’re still promoting unstable scams and any high dreamer can instantly fall prey to your hype and join these scams from your site. I’d like to hope you are just new to internet investments and don’t understand the darkness you’ve just walked into, but either way, you are promoting a lot of scams simultaneously and quite far from deserving to be so easily pardoned.
May God have mercy on your soul, Brad, because I’d have a hard time offering you any pity. If the law comes after you, I hope you pay the full price. You’re an adult. You should know better than to act so reckless.
maxtrigger says:
November 25, 2009 at 2:30 am (UTC -5)
Why would someone mess around with H.y.i.p. scam like this?
You ll reap what you sow. You play with garbage you will get garbage. Even if you make money here karma is a bitch and you’ll pay for it. Just wait and see.
Brad Kamanski says:
November 25, 2009 at 7:14 am (UTC -5)
Ponzi Champ,
Thank you for your kind words. I wish I had a dollar for the millions of Americans who have invested in the stock market with the suit and tie crowd only to be swindled out of their hard earned fortunes. Old folks homes are filled with the victims. At least Cash Tanker gives me hope. Something our government has robbed from all of us! If you cannot develop a conservative strategy to minimize risk you are NO SMARTER than the idiots lining up to buy lottery tickets on Saturday forgoing their groceries. And yet our wonderful leaders support lotteries! You know why. They are only concerned with one thing. Our money and making their lives better. Wake up Ponzi Chump! You’ll smell the coffee one day but it will cost you $15.75…Brad
Brad Kamanski says:
November 25, 2009 at 7:18 am (UTC -5)
PS: At 8:00 am Monday through Friday I get an email telling me I made $250 and it grows every day. Not bad for an initial investment of only $400. I’ve had dinners that cost me more! How are you doing financially? Brad
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 25, 2009 at 3:53 pm (UTC -5)
Don’t try to insult anyone’s intelligence here by twisting this as if financial disasters of the past somehow give you the right to promote ponzis. You know you’re promoting internet scams that cannot last. These Hyips are going to die and leave most of the people you brought in with an ugly loss.
You can brag all you want about how much money you make in the Cash tanker ponzi or how much you give away. No one with any common sense is impressed. Your profits are nothing but ‘first in, first out’ stolen rewards as the result of a ponzi.
Since you asked, I do very well financially even through this recession, and while this may be hard for a tacky ponzi gambler to understand, I maintain my status by awareness to trends and avoiding unfeasible short term investments. Internet ponzis are only for the ignorant and greedy, I’ve learned that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Not only is what you’re doing unethical, but it’s illegal. Which brings me to my next point for the general audience we have with us here on this blog.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 25, 2009 at 4:21 pm (UTC -5)
General note to anyone that has been referred to Cash tanker by Brad Kamanski ::
After the Cash tanker ship sinks, if you were referred by Brad Kamanski and lose a significant amount of money as a direct result of listening to his reckless promoting and hype, you will want to seriously consider your legal options.
Brad Kamanski has received commission for his recruiting and therefore as a perpetrator of money laundering and fraud, by all legal terms, is liable for any losses you may suffer from his dangerous advice. Obtaining his identity and proof of negligence is as simple as running up a few Google searches. You’ll find his website with full name and number attached, scripts of promotion, and videos everywhere admitting his open participation in these scams.
I know a few people that have collected from lawsuits against ponzi promoters. Brad has laid everything out for you and made the step of organizing proof extremely simple. If a group of people discover they’ve been sent to the pit by Brad, they may want to go the class action route.
You can also file reports against Brad Kamanski for assisting fraud through the IFCC, SEC, and the IC3 government website. Don’t let reckless ponzi promoters walk out the open door, or they’ll just continue their ways.
crownzaucer says:
November 25, 2009 at 7:16 pm (UTC -5)
LOL what an arrogant bastard! i hope people do sue kamanski’s ass off when the cast tanker shit hits the fan. you are exactly right ponzi champ, these types just keep pimping their scams away until someone takes action. in the mean time we can all notify authorities and make sure they have something on record ahead of time for this ponzi boy.
So funny because the guy is BEGGING to be sued!! videos everywhere, blatant ponzis all over that web page, and he’s now come here and admitted to earning $250 of illegal gains every day! LMAO!! why not just post a neon sign about your house saying “I’m a SCAMMER, come investigate me and throw me in prison!”
Bill says:
November 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm (UTC -5)
Well thanksgiving is here and that means Christmas isn’t far behind….
Don’t be expecting too many more payouts from the crap tanker… sam’s probably getting ready to run..
DickRiders says:
November 26, 2009 at 7:37 pm (UTC -5)
LOL what a bunch of haters…
it is not illegal to trade money with another person, sure there is risk but certainly not illegal as long as taxes are paid….
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 26, 2009 at 10:20 pm (UTC -5)
The act of ‘trading money’ by itself? No there’s nothing illegal about it.
I’m really not sure what your point is though. No one here ever claimed it was. We’re talking about ponzis here, not trading. Are you lost? You should make sure you post in the right section next time around.
Jason says:
November 27, 2009 at 12:04 am (UTC -5)
Its Thanksgiving here.
Can we stop acting like bunch of crybabies and enjoy the day?
Bashing and insulting each other proving who’s right and who’s wrong is just plain childish and pathetic.
We are grown ups. If someone wants to invest in Hyips let them be. They are old enough to make their own decision. And if someone wants to promote ponzis let them be.. They are willing to take the risk of getting in trouble with the government or getting sued.
Either way ..it’s really Non of your business..so Lets have a good turkey day , take a chill pill and relax ok boys?
crownzaucer says:
November 27, 2009 at 12:52 am (UTC -5)
Jason, some good people here care enough to warn other naive people about the ponzi scheme crap going on within CT. if you don’t give a shit who gets hurt and plan to keep treading in HYIP land as if what you’re doing is moral and legal, when it’s not, then you don’t have the right to tell us to stop doing anyway.
And if you don’t like us schooling your precious ponzi scheme’s biggest pimps, just piss off and find something better to do with your time. we couldn’t care any less. you contribute nothing as a ponzi junkie and the only posts you ever do make are bitching rants about having the rights to swim in ponzi waters. let me help you find the magical X, ponzi boy. look up. now look to the far right. click it with your mouse, that a boy! so long and good riddance.
Brad Kamanski says:
November 27, 2009 at 10:29 am (UTC -5)
Mr. Ryz, (a real name?)
It seems my right to Free Speech has been eroded. Oh well. They took God out of schools. I guess they can take me off some blasphemous low rate bloggy…Brad
Mr. Ryz says:
November 27, 2009 at 5:03 pm (UTC -5)
Dear Brad,
Just to clear up any confusion, you weren’t originally banned or blocked by my hand. WordPress’s Akistmet application blocked your last couple posts and then placed your IP address on the “blacklist” as a threat.
However, I went back to review your posts, and quite frankly, I probably would have sent them to the spam file anyway. This is not the place to post updates about GNI or any other random high yield offering program.
Now to address your most recent post:
#1. Despite the fact that I often grant my commentors the right to speak freely (provided they do so without committing a blatant disregard for blog etiquette), you are not technically guaranteed “free speech” on any personal or private blog. Where did that idea erupt from? Or are you yet another individual confusing your 1st amendment rights concerning the Government of the U.S. with a private discussion portal?
#2. Interesting attempt to portray yourself as a martyr, but don’t expect any reasonable person to buy it. I strongly believe God detests the greed and deceit that flows from the HYIP industry; especially with Cash Tanker, a ponzi scheme that mocks his own image. God is not being represented by Cash Tanker or it’s affiliates; in fact, it’s quite the opposite. The term you used, “blasphemous,” is the perfect description of this vile Cash Tanker farce indeed.
Under normal circumstances, I would have been happy to explain your unique posting situation, remove your information from the “blacklist,” and reinstate your posting privileges. But, after reading your past few comments, it would be rather irresponsible of me to encourage you to continue your participation within a blog community you find so revolting.
In closing, I’m sorry we had to meet under these circumstances, Brad. If you truly value Godly principles above all else, I believe you have a lot to learn about the dark industry you’ve recently entangled yourself in. It took me 2-3 years to learn that lesson the hard way; hopefully, you’ll discover the same truth.
Have a wonderful weekend, Brad.
- Mr. Ryz
Kenneth J Dickens says:
November 27, 2009 at 10:49 pm (UTC -5)
Please, by all means, keep making your bitter, erroneous statements and assumptions and I’ll keep living off of the $300 interest payments I get from Mr. Serino and his unscrupulous ponzi scheme–DAILY.
=)
Blessings!
crownzaucer says:
November 28, 2009 at 1:25 am (UTC -5)
Mr ryz, I don’t think people like brad care to learn anything. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand why ponzi schemes are wrong. i’d bet he knows full well this is a ponzi, he just doesn’t give a shit because he’s making all this money. just look at the guy kenneth who just posted, he admits its a ponzi scheme and couldn’t care less how it impacts others as long as he keeps taking those $300 payments.
I’ve seen some people promote scam after scam for several years and bend religion to justify their greedy ponzi pimping. it really is sick, especially because they always refer newbies that fall for their slick snake tongue.
Let’s be real here, and i’m only directing this at people that are willing to use the brain in their heads, not cash tanker ponzi scheme cheerleaders. cash tanker found a lot of attention early on. you saw it in all the big hyip forums and it gained quite a few followers and spurred a lot of recruiters. it’s no surprise it’s managed to last until november, but now we’re starting to see people with big 4 digit accounts that will keep cashing out. once cash tanker sees enough brad kamanskis and kenneths cashing out $250 or $300 a day, the ponzi scheme will quickly be sucked dry. that point isn’t far away so if you’re in cash tanker right now, do the bright thing and take out what you can.
SilverbulletLeo says:
November 28, 2009 at 3:13 am (UTC -5)
Lol I can’t believe there’s even a debate going on here about this stupid scam. The website looks like a little kid’s drawing and the company taking your money doesn’t even exist.
Many forums are filled to the brim with testimonies from people saying Sam Serino paid them out instantly, so if there was any doubt, now we know for sure it’s a ponzi game. He’s just collecting all the money in one big pot and then paying people out whenever they ask for it.
How do I know this? How about because international fund transfers take 3 to 5 business days at the very least. If Serino was really investing your money, you wouldn’t receive it for several days. But yes I know, reasoning that far would require some business 101 knowledge, something these cash tanker morons lack.
A lot of fools are about to part with their money here. Yes some could even be in legal trouble if they sent other sheeple to Sam. I wonder how the terror will unwind in Dec.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
November 30, 2009 at 12:41 am (UTC -5)
Sam Serino just added a cheapo forum to his website. No surprise there. Keep the cash tanker cheerleaders together and talking whenever possible, and everyone will keep having ‘faith’ in the admin. Oldest trick in the ponzi book.
What was very surprising to me was the other addition, Cash Tanker’s ‘Happy Christians’ community. Looks like some major ponzi profiteers were actually willing to give away their personal information and pictures for Sam Serino to post on his site! Wow, will that decision be regretted in the year that follows.
I can’t say I was surprised to see Brad Kamanski’s mug on the first page. Scott Kalechstein is there as well. This could end up being a very strategic move by Sam. After his ponzi dies, people will have complete information on cash tanker’s biggest ponzi jockeys. Since Sam Serino is most likely an anonymous nobody hiding under a false name, victims of the scam may spend their time going after the ponzi jockeys. It’s pretty difficult to report or sue someone when you don’t know their true identity or where they live, so victims will focus on the people they do know about.
Sly of Scamming Sammy if I’m right. He probably knew his ‘followers’ would be careless enough to give all their information away for all to see. Big mistake on their part.
Jason says:
November 30, 2009 at 3:48 am (UTC -5)
Crown
No body cares about your so called “Being a hero and be a messenger to others not to invest or whatever you say.
All I can say is “you have no life”
Don’t you have a family? lol
scumbag
And Brad kamansky or whatever. Stop your nonsense.
crownzaucer says:
November 30, 2009 at 2:40 pm (UTC -5)
Is it just me or are Ct cheerleaders like jason making less sense with each passing day? he can’t even bring himself to construct a coherent post anymore. too bad, no one likes a rusty old clown.
Jason says:
November 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm (UTC -5)
Crown=Clown lol
how old are you?
Me a CT cheerleader??? Where did you get that idea? lol
We all know CT is a ponzi
its giving 3% a day.
If you still dont believe CT is a ponzi you have a problem
What i am saying is.. I just get tired of your crap saying the same thing over and over again
Cheerleaders, Cheerleaders!
scam scam scam scam
We heard it ..and we know it so shut up
crownzaucer says:
November 30, 2009 at 3:55 pm (UTC -5)
Poor jason. it’s even worse than I thought, he’s really going off his nutty and he can’t even control his disordered bitching rants. he could probably stand to use a hug and feel valued, but I’m not about to suggest anyone recommend a good dating service site for him. i’m not sure it’s safe to encourage him to be around other people right now.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 1, 2009 at 2:08 am (UTC -5)
Jason, I really don’t understand that. You remind me of the funny people I used to see at professional MLB games whine about the weather being too hot for hours on end. Then on one occasion a bigger fellow stood up and said ‘No one is forcing you to be here! If you’re that miserable, just leave.’
It’s the same with you, Jason. If you don’t like the people trying to knock some sense into some of naive people holding tight to Cash Tanker, then go your own way. You are not forced to watch this blog. Scolding everyone just because you don’t like what they keep repeating isn’t going change anything.
Bill says:
December 1, 2009 at 5:33 pm (UTC -5)
What a hoot!.. cash tanker’s happy christians community..hooo boy.
Since the site could pop and blow away any day.. soo let’s go through that happy cash tanker scam crew…..
SCOTT KALECHSTEIN
TOM SULLIVAN
SCOTT SNIDER
BRAD KAMANSKI
CAREECE CHICHESTER
JUNE DIGGLE
WESLEY STANDLEE
PRINCE IKE MUOGBO
KYLE WATT
REV. SATHYA KUMARA B
FREDERICUS BAWA WICAKSANA
CHRIS LOMBARDI
SEBY OUSEPH
DAVID A. RUSS
TOBY ( ? )
MARINA J CHRAPKO
GARY MAX NORTON
DAVID STEWART
RICARDO VARGAS
joelieoxx says:
December 2, 2009 at 4:47 pm (UTC -5)
Eek there’s the greed that comes with Christmas time . everyone trying to make a quick buck not thinking about what they are doing to other people or what perils they put themselves in. I think this is an insult , A real Christian person knows better than to act like this.
Matt says:
December 2, 2009 at 6:39 pm (UTC -5)
As some have noted above, if CashTanker is a ponzi, it could never afford to pay everyone all their investment plus interest on the same day (Dec. 25th).
This makes me think Sam wants us to think it’s not a ponzi thereby getting a high quantity of people to invest at the last moment thinking they will only be departed from their cash for a short time.
If Dec. 25th comes and goes and everyone gets paid, are we to assume he is a legit banker as he claims? This would only be a sure sign if everyone actually cashes out their earnings into their E-Currency account. Otherwise, despite telling everyone their cash is available, it could still be a ponzi banking on people re-investing and not realizing their earnings.
Also, what about CT’s “convert and Earn”? Sam appears to be paying people 2-7% just to convert your money from Liberty Reserve to StrictPay. If he has found some sort of loophole in E-Currency fees, this might explain his ability to pay the members. (Called E-Currency Arbitrage?) I would love to know if anyone has used the “convert and Earn” feature of CT. Heck, you could earn 7% a day using this without investing in the program at all.
crownzaucer says:
December 2, 2009 at 7:49 pm (UTC -5)
You are right on the money, Matt! and unfortunately if you look at cash tanker’s stats, people are falling right for Sam Serino’s trap.
Just look at the some of the new deposits that just took place in the last couple hours.
Deposit
U82527XX
$9,000.00
23965211
Liberty Reserve
Deposit
U77253XX
$4,494.02
23630977
Liberty Reserve
Deposit
751XX
$2,800.00
2338906
Strict Pay
People are pouring in THOUSANDS of DOLLARS at a time into this pathetic ponzi scam! can you imagine the gleeful expression on Sam Serino’s face every hour when he sees another moron depositing several thousands of dollars?
No wonder cash tanker has lasted so long. people keep feeding the damn ponzi with larger and larger amounts. this is just sickening. I guarantee Sam is getting ready to run with results like this. no way can he continue to payout if the recruiting and investing rush dies down after christmas. hold on tight, cash tanker clowns. you’re in for a brutal reality.
Matt says:
December 3, 2009 at 10:40 am (UTC -5)
I really think those numbers are bogus. Go to the website and refresh your browser a couple of times. The numbers jump all over the place. The entire list changes every time you refresh.
crownzaucer says:
December 3, 2009 at 4:40 pm (UTC -5)
I think you may be right about that, Matt. unless about 100 people are depositing or getting withdrawals every 10 minutes and i know that’s not the case. can’t say i’m surprised. the whole cash tanker scam is based on lies and theft, why wouldn’t Sam also fudge the numbers and testimonies in his favor? what does he have to lose?
Mercy says:
December 4, 2009 at 9:21 am (UTC -5)
Mr. Ryz, do u mean that Cashtanker is a scam.
please can you send to me good site that are into long term investment that is real.
I need the one that was sent to Champ.
Mercy
benmercy@gmail.com
Amazing Lady says:
December 4, 2009 at 11:34 am (UTC -5)
This is funny. Everyone here are debating about ponzi scheme but everyone that said bad things about HYIP have not lost or invested into Guardian or Cash Tanker. So if all by means, you should investigate first the program yourself rather than becoming the naysayers of dreamers and achievers. You naysayers are losers in your finances, that’s why it’s better for you to watch others become successful; watching them lose/win. Losers are those people who are afraid to fail… therefore you miss a lot of opportunities and becoming successful. Good luck everyone.
Matt says:
December 4, 2009 at 1:53 pm (UTC -5)
My main concern with CashTanker is the “Convert and Earn”. This cannot be a ponzi (by itself). You get paid to convert your money from Liberty Reserve, into Strict Pay. No waiting, you get your principal and profit instantly. How can he afford to do this? There can only be two answers. Either he is legit and has the ability to earn 7%+ everytime he converts his money (and the members) from his Liberty reserve to his StrictPay OR he is using funds from the general CT pool dramatically increasing the scope of the ponzi. The second answer is the more probable but it just doesn’t make sense. Why would he increase the rate at wich the ponzi will fail by offering another way for his members to make money? Isn’t the 2%-3% per day enough? At any rate, all will be answered Dec. 25th. A ponzi can never promise all members principal plus interest returned on the same day. CashTanker will either fail or prove that it is totally legit.
Mr. Ryz says:
December 4, 2009 at 4:53 pm (UTC -5)
Hello Matt,
Just for the records (as I’ve been meaning to point this out for a few days now), I don’t think we have enough raw data to mark Christmas as the failure deadline. I know quite a few participants in this article’s comment section have implied that Cash Tanker’s “doomsday” is sometime prior to the 25th of December; however, there’s no official guarantee if Cash Tanker continues to grow at an exponential rate. If Cash Tanker continues to double it’s membership + deposits each month, it could survive additional months.
However, at the same time, we should also reflect upon HYIP Industry history and logic, which indicates that December and the Christmas season tend to influence more ponzi scheme collapses than other periods (“Christmas, Scams, & The HYIP Industry”). Though, from the statistical perspective that only raises the probability of Cash Tanker jumping the fence before the New Year’s Holiday; i.e. the “threat” of losing the gamble is greater. There really are no “deadline” guarantees in ponzi schemes; just vague predictions.
I suspect Sam Serino is converting Liberty Reserve to Strict Pay funds because Strict Pay is a young payment processor with rather loose restrictions. This gives the Cash Tanker administration two advantages. First of all, payouts are less painless. Secondly, once Sam Serino makes his run for the hills, it will be easier for him to withdraw money, split accounts, spread funds into fake accounts or temporary accounts under erroneous names / identification, etc. One thing is certain: If Serino appears desperate to convert his PP currency, there is a motive.
With that said – impending demise by Christmas or not – the important point for everyone to remember is that you’re dealing with ponzi scheme elements. Cash Tanker is a highly unstable series of deposit exchanges from early investors to later investors. Sooner or later, the bitter collapse will come. At this time, anyone who falls prey to this scam and deposits more money stands a much higher chance of losing everything. And that probability of “losing” will significantly increase each month from here on out.
- Mr. Ryz
Mr. Ryz says:
December 4, 2009 at 5:08 pm (UTC -5)
Greetings Mercy,
Sure, I will forward you the same e-mail.
- Mr. Ryz
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 5, 2009 at 12:08 am (UTC -5)
Words of wisdom there Mr.Ryz. I should have been more clear when posting earlier. No Cash Tanker won’t necessarily die by Christmas but just you said, the chances that it will are much greater than they were in November, and then even greater than they were in October etc
The way the hype is flowing it may last a few more rounds. Though if Matt is right about all that payment exchange going on, yeah it looks like Sam is preparing for a mad dash with the money. The change in Cash Tanker cheerleaders attitudes is sure going to be an interesting site to see very soon.
Matt says:
December 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm (UTC -5)
Just to clarify, CT pays its members to exchange their money from LR to SP. So all you do is type in your LR #, your SP # and the amount you want to exchange. The money is tranfered plus 2-7%. Most exchange services cost you, this one pays.
Jason says:
December 5, 2009 at 3:46 pm (UTC -5)
Haha Kamanski finally took down CT from his webpage..i guess he learned his lesson:D
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 5, 2009 at 4:58 pm (UTC -5)
Yes I also noticed that Brad Kamanski is now trying to cover up his old Cash Tanker promotion. He’s taken it off his website menu but as of now, it’s still up. You can find it using his link and adding ” /cashtanker.htm ” at the end.
He’ll be trying to disable or delete the page and his youtube pimping efforts soon enough. I’ve already made copies of his Cash Tanker page and recordings of his videos. Listen to the last one he did. He announces his name and website, then aside from pimping Cash Tanker he admits he’s made illegal gains and then endorses 2 other ponzi scams. Imagine how quickly a court would eat that up.
Either way Kamanski is digging himself a very deep grave. Cash tanker itself may not be as openly promoted anymore but he still has 2 gifting scams and 3 ponzi scams pasted on his site. He’s just too reckless and arrogant and I’m sure his goose will be cooked in time.
Victor says:
December 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm (UTC -5)
I have been trading options for 5 years now. I always have my eyes open to investments that can yield results with minimal risk but haven’t come across anything that’s better than my current- 10% return per month with a 90% probability rate -using option spreads. Friends of mine come to me for investing advice. A friend of a friend said he has come across a program that produces 3% compounded return daily. (Cashtanker) He already invested 1000 dollars. I quickly calculated and told him he would have 48 Million in 1 year and if he waits just one more year, he will be the world’s first trillionaire. I told him to withdraw us money immediately but he says he can’t, no one will return his emails from Cashtanker. Another victim of a terrible scam. I can’t believe how people are falling for this scam. For those saying “Don’t knock it ’til you try it” need to use some common sense. Better yet- just send me a thousand dollars and I’ll make you a Trillionaire in 2 years, don’t ask me how I’ll invest your money. Just believe me because I’m Christian, and I want to help you. As a christian, I was offended when I checked out the website and banners.
crownzaucer says:
December 6, 2009 at 3:45 pm (UTC -5)
Victor, you have every right to find cash tanker offensive because that’s exactly what it is! glad to see the more recent people stopping by and running the path of common sense. rumor has it that quite a few big earners are pretty damn angry at cash tanker right now because their payments are delayed and sam serino isn’t answering emails!! HEY NOW I WONDER WHY THAT IS?
I can hardly believe how many idiots joined such an obvious scam as this and tossed up their personal information for all to see. is this what the world has come to? people don’t even realize when they’re standing next to a bomb ticking away anymore. terrible.
john says:
December 7, 2009 at 9:32 am (UTC -5)
Latest update from CT.. LOL
My Dear Investors!
Last days I am experience a problem with huge amounts to withdraw
using e-currency processors. Telling the truth I was not prepared
for such large transactions and exchangers cannot process my orders in
time. I was thinking this weekend what should I do and prayed the
Lord to give me an answer.
Your accounts started from today (Monday) are credited with interest payments
till 25th of December 2009. You may see that you have all your funds
at Cash Available (pending withdrawals returned). From this moment I
would like you to order withdrawals and ALL of them will be processed
from 20th – 25th of December 2009 and will be COMPLETED this year.
I strongly recommend to order withdrawal via Bank wire.
All new deposits and reinvested will be credited and interest will be
compounded.
And now I will be thinking how to organize CashTanker for the next year.
IMPORTANT: Please do not send support tickets to Strictpay, I don’t
have any issues with my account right now
With God’s help, we can overcome anything
Sam Serino
Matt says:
December 7, 2009 at 12:01 pm (UTC -5)
Like I said, “All will be answered Dec. 25th” It’s worse then I thought. If all CT members money is moved to “Cash Available” then everyone re-invests, the ponzi could have continued because no one cashed out. Now it appears he is strongly suggesting everyone withdraws their cash and wait for Jan. to re-invest. Many people wont because he also says “All new deposits and reinvested will be credited and interest will be
compounded.” So if everyone, or at least most of the members withdraw, the program will fail when it comes time to pay (Dec. 20-25th).
shoutit says:
December 7, 2009 at 2:43 pm (UTC -5)
Matt , you dont have it quite correct, yes dec 25th would tell all, whether we investors have egg on our faces or some members of this forum will have egg on theirs,
Sam has made it mendatory for all investors to withdraw all prinicipal and earnings up to 25th december as of today. He has added interest to your balances up to 25th december , and made it mandatory for you to request a withdrawl of this intereest and pricipal , with payout dec 20 thru 25th. So yes he is either going to prove to be the real deal , or prove to have been a scam in the next few days. And right now it could go either way. So lets just wait and see who has EGG ALL OF THEIR FACES COME 25TH DECEMBER .
shoutit says:
December 7, 2009 at 4:48 pm (UTC -5)
So why was my post removed.
shoutit says:
December 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm (UTC -5)
Sorry pls disregard last post , did not see my post before i posted.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 7, 2009 at 8:50 pm (UTC -5)
Oh my. That update sure resembles other excuses that previous big HYIP ponzis made before they swiped the carpet out from under their investors and ran with the remaining cash.
I should point out that shoutit is technically wrong about the 25th of Dec being the definite judgment day, and if you take the time to read Mr.Ryz’s recent explanation earlier you’ll learn why. As long as Cash Tanker exponentially grows, it can still survive. If it kept doubling or tripling each month all the way to June 2010 then it could last 6 months longer. Very simple formula there.
But I should also point out that after this recent Cash Tanker announcement, I expect that Sam Serino is preparing to run. I want everyone to look a little closer at what Sam is telling you.
” From this moment I would like you to order withdrawals and ALL of them will be processed from 20th – 25th of December 2009 and will be COMPLETED this year. ”
So in order words Sam is giving himself two weeks to prepare his journey, which will involve a dash with whatever money is left from his ponzi. Make sure you request withdrawals if you haven’t already, but honestly I think it’s too late. Sam already announced he won’t be paying until the 20th at the earliest, and that time will be spent making plans to transfer all the leftover funds and escaping. Whatever any of you have left in Cash Tanker is probably now lost.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see anymore crazy excuses from him in the next week. Like usual, the cheerleaders and naive sheep in this scam will probably trust him all the way to 2010. It’s a sad thing really. Hopefully some will at least learn a lifelong lesson in the process.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 7, 2009 at 8:59 pm (UTC -5)
OHHH one last thing for all of you who are willing to accept Cash Tanker for what it is. Look at Sam’s last line.
” IMPORTANT: Please do not send support tickets to Strictpay, I don’t have any issues with my account right now ”
Isn’t it interesting that he begs you not to send any sort of concern or complaint whatsoever to StrictPay?
I would encourage all of you in Cash Tanker to immediately send tickets to StrictPay. Explain the situation, tell them the owner of Cash Tanker is operating suspiciously and you’d like confirmation to know if Sam Serino has ever even withdrawn the money in his StrictPay account to use for any investment purposes. If they reply honestly, I guarantee you’ll find that Sam has just been collecting deposits and paying back out when withdrawals were requested. Just ponzi transactions.
If StrictPay discovers this before Sam runs with whatever is left in the funds, they can freeze his account and the ponzi victims will at least receive something back. Then again StrictPay is such a loose and shady processor, they would probably require quite a barrage of complaints before they even think of interfering. So, go now and send them tickets and hope your voices are heard in time.
Jason says:
December 7, 2009 at 10:54 pm (UTC -5)
i know how hyips end
Cash tanker is gone:)
but i didnt lose money
Mr. Ryz says:
December 8, 2009 at 12:23 am (UTC -5)
Yes, I think you’re both correct. All blatant ponzi schemes must meet their end in due time. “Payout excuses” usually signal the end, and therefore it appears that Sam Serino has officially marked the gravestone for Cash Tanker.
- Mr. Ryz
Truthseeker says:
December 8, 2009 at 1:59 am (UTC -5)
I made more than invested so far in CT, any money is ‘gravy’ now as it has been for awhile.
Yes, the irony is some of us KNOW these things are ‘ponzis’ through and through, we just play and profit from the great Robert J. Shiller’s term “feedback loop theory of investor bubbles”
Googling that therm should yield interesting reading.
I make a decent living in these programs and my losses are minimal.
We take advantage of what few people know, and capitalize on it.
Many people with ‘High IQ’s’ ironically join these programs too, trust me, many do because I know a few.
This flies in the face of conventional wisdom, there is large literature by Michael Shermer and Massimo Palmarimi that show how many ‘geniuses’ fail to use their intelligence fully or efficiently when addressing everyday decisions.
misuse of their ‘schemas’, if you will.
Regardless, some win, some lose
Do your homework, and know when to quit.
It ‘pays’ not to be to too smart.
“be as a child” as the good book sez..heh heh…it works.
topgun says:
December 8, 2009 at 3:17 am (UTC -5)
Theres still a lot of cashtanker people telling everyone else that this new update is a good thing and to have faith in sam because he loves them all so much.. Horse shit!! This is the first resource I’ ve found where people understand whats going on . Too late for regrets though,this one is out of steam. Bye bye cashtanker.
Matt says:
December 8, 2009 at 3:12 pm (UTC -5)
CT promises all members their principal and interest will be available for withdrawal on Dec. 25th. A ponzi can’t pay ALL members their principal and interest on the same day. The ponzi can continue if and only if MOST of the members do not cash out on Dec. 25th and just re-invest for next year. Now CT is telling its members to cash out. I can only assume that most (85%-95%) of the members will take the admins advice and request a cash out. Remember, we’re dealing with 50%-120% profit per month. I bet if half the members cash out the funds wont be adequate. Then the members that didn’t get paid on Dec. 25th will speak up on forums like this one, and the ponzi will be exposed. The only way it can continue is if most the members ignore the admin and dont request a cash out.
Why would CT promise the members their principal and interest on the same day? I assume most members got nervous about the Dec. 25th deadline and started cashing out each day rather than compounding to make sure they were in profit by the time CT is scheduled to pay the masses. Thats what started this whole thing with StrictPay not paying and blaming it on CT and CT blaming it on StrictPay.
Kind of a brave move on the part of CT to know, and hint to your members, the exact day you will be exposed as a scam, your only hope is if you can persuade most your members to trust you that you will pay their principal next year and there is no need to request it this Dec.
crownzaucer says:
December 9, 2009 at 12:49 am (UTC -5)
LOL. sure enough cash tanker collapsed under its own weight and it didn’t even make it 2 weeks into december. what a pathetic scam.
It’s pretty sick how all this turned out too. the people that badmouthed all the good people here trying to warn newbies to stay out came back to brag about how much they stole from other people. nice going, jason. you’re a real professional, now that cash tanker is gone, what are you going to do to bring in money? rob little kids of their lunch money on their way to school?
Then you have the major ponzi pimps and pimpettes that will soon erase their cash tanker promotions, but they go on and continue to pimp other ponzi scams! just a community full of greedy bastards and liars. those of you who chose to make cash tanker your first Hyip experience, hopefully you learned something from all this mess.
PML says:
December 9, 2009 at 8:10 am (UTC -5)
I invested in cashtanker using strictpay but today Dec 9.09 it’s not showing in cashtanker site i can only use LR,PM,ECU and Wire. I think sam close his account already with strictpay with no warning.LOL
Matt says:
December 9, 2009 at 11:39 am (UTC -5)
Sam is saying on his forum that StrictPay is evil and they stole his, and his investers money. His wife has been crying for two days. And that he will pay every cent he has promised, on time, from his other processors. He has advised all investord to request a complete cash out via Liberty Reserve or Bank Wire. If you are unfortunate to have funds in CT, cancel your StrictPay withdrawal and re-request via Liberty Reserve. Then hold your breath, cross your fingers, tap your heels together, and wait for Dec. 25th.
PML says:
December 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm (UTC -5)
Hi Matt Thanks for your advice !
Will wait for the payout dec 20 thru 25th KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED !
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 9, 2009 at 2:39 pm (UTC -5)
Great job, people! I’m very glad to hear that StrictPay is making the effort to stop Sam Serino from running away with the leftovers so easily. I guarantee this has everything to do with all the members complaints being sent in to StrictPay.
Don’t loosen up! Keep expressing your concerns to StrictPay and in the process you may want to inquire about the past 6 months of activity. If they are an honorable payment processor, they will investigate, find that Sam Serino was running a clean cut ponzi scheme, and then make plans to refund a portion to victims of the scam.
Don’t delay! Send in your complaints to StrictPay now!
shoutit says:
December 10, 2009 at 8:05 am (UTC -5)
No you are wrong ponzi champ, this is the real deal behind strict pay
StrictPay Customers
Due to some difficulties in tracking counter deposits and ACH transactions with our current banking system, our contracted agent will be completing the change to a different bank over the next 7 to 10 days. This change will allow us to provide our customers with better service due to our staff now having better tools to track transfers to and from the bank accounts. Please read this entire email very carefully, as there are many important details concerning this change.
The contracted agent has been working on this transition for some time now, and notified their current bank of the changes in banking that they were instituting. Their current bank gave them time frames that allowed them to move larger amounts of funds than normal with no delays or limits, but they ended up cutting those time frames shorter than they originally allowed. This time frame reduction on increased allowable transfer amounts has caused there to be some delays that were unforeseen by all parties involved.
What does this mean for our customers? The new accounts have already been setup, but because of the increased transfer amounts they have placed a holding period on the funds. This holding period will be lifted next week, but until this time you will experience some delays with Check, ACH, and Bank Wire withdraw requests. As the funds become active in the new accounts we will be processing pending withdraw requests, and once all the funds transfers are active you will see all time frames back to normal for all withdraw requests. Debit card withdraws will continue exactly as they currently do with no delays.
We will need to cancel all pending withdraw requests that are currently in our system, so that our funding department can begin fresh with the new banking systems. We felt this was also important to give our customers the chance to use the funds in a different way if they are not wanting to wait for the increased processing times, and would rather use their funds with one of the merchants that accepts StrictPay as a payment option. If you wish to continue with your planned withdraw option, you can simply enter the withdraw request into our system again, and we will begin processing them as soon as we are able. We will have all pending withdraw requests cancelled by Midnight EST today.
This will also affect a handful of customers that had their ACH or Bank Wire withdraw request processed in our system on December 8th or 9th. Some of these requests did not complete before the current account was closed early, and these customers will see the funds added back to their StrictPay account along with the fees they paid for the withdraw request. If you are one of these customers, please just enter a new withdraw request into our system again, and we will process your request from one of the new bank accounts.
We have also added new bank wire deposit instructions into our system. Please note that these new wire instructions must be used from this point on with no exceptions, and you will need to discard any older wire instructions you may have on hand. These new bank wire instructions will change from time to time, so please always enter your bank wire deposit request into the system prior to sending any funds, to insure you are sending them to the proper bank account.
We do sincerely apologize for these delays. Our main focus has always been on the security of our customers and our company, and these changes insure that StrictPay will be here to serve all your online payment needs for a very long time into the future. We understand that while we felt like we had everything in place for a very smooth transition, things do not always go as planned, and we hope that you can be patient and understanding during this transition as well.
Team StrictPay
The Best Payment Solution
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 11, 2009 at 2:33 pm (UTC -5)
Ah that’s too bad, but thanks for reporting it, shoutit. Unfortunately that means all people who still have money in Cash Tanker have probably lost it, unless StrictPay decides to make an effort to freeze Sam’s account. But as of now it looks like they have their hands full with other problems.
Cash Tanker member’s only hope is to keep sending in complaints to StrictPay and hope they are willing to step in and stop Sam Serino before he rides away. Keep demanding answers, because if you do absolutely nothing that’s exactly what you will receive.
Harvin says:
December 11, 2009 at 5:04 pm (UTC -5)
DAMN YOU SERINO you planned to steal from us the whole time, i should have known better than to fall for your kind heart wanta help everyone christianity bullshit. And I gave benefit of doubt investing my $ 1000 hoping some guy really did have a heart but your just a LOW DOWN DOG!!! Im gonna do more than report you to strictpay i’m going to make sure everyone stops you. YOU aren’t taking any of our money YOU FUCKING SCAMMER!
shoutit says:
December 12, 2009 at 10:22 am (UTC -5)
people are still paying in new funds, and sam is still paying referral fee commision to your liberty rreserve account without even requesting it. Now that is strange, paid me a referral fee on the 11th, and i did not even request a withdrawl.
shoutit says:
December 12, 2009 at 10:28 am (UTC -5)
Others are reporting being paid also referral fees and commission on new deposits , and they are not requesting the withdrawl either, so if he is running, he is going about it in a strange way, but again 20th to 25th of december would be the proof. Of who is right and who is wrong, right now still it can go either way, but pendulum swinging a little towards not running , but that is just my guess.
shoutit says:
December 12, 2009 at 10:33 am (UTC -5)
To tell you the truth, this whole cash tanker saga, is a little too strange , for me to say he is going to run, just not a classic running scenario , going on right now,, i could be wrong, but if he is running, he is surely going about it very very strange, and i speak as one who is on the inside, looking in not an outsider, looking in. I have been given documents proving , who he is , where he lives, bank accounts, all which can be verified, so this one will be strange , to see what happens in the end,
shoutit says:
December 12, 2009 at 10:39 am (UTC -5)
P.S These documents where handed out to others as well, EARLY up in the program, so if you where going to scam, why would you send out these documents early in your program, which people could have had checked out and exposed you early, as no one who has these documents has come back saying they are false, then it is probably because he really is who he says he is, then begs the question, if you are really who you say you are, why would you be so foolish as to let everyone know before hand and then try to scam them, just does not make sense.
john says:
December 12, 2009 at 5:13 pm (UTC -5)
- POST REMOVED -
Reason: Blatant SPAM / Advertising for Autosurf ponzi schemes.
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IP: 24.137.103.126
Matt says:
December 13, 2009 at 12:06 pm (UTC -5)
If I was Sam, and I was running a pure ponzi scam, and all my members were planning on getting their principal and interest paid on Christmas, and I knew the money will never be paid, I would have been planning my exit strategy months ago and I would have been LONG GONE by now. How much more can you get by stretching it out a few more days? He must be certain there is no way anyone will ever catch him.
john says:
December 15, 2009 at 9:31 am (UTC -5)
Looks like he wont give up…
“Dear Investors,
I have a good news for all of you.
Now I am 100% prepared to complete all the withdrawal orders you have already ordered.
I would like to apologize for not responding to support requests, was very busy those days.
1. ALL WITHDRAWAL ORDERS WILL BE PROCESSED FROM 20th – 25th of December 2009
2. You can cancel current withdrawal and order a new one, if needed.
3. ALL Strictpay orders will be cancelled because this payment system blocked my account and stolen all the funds, moreover
they are running away and won’t be able to complete all the withdrawal and information about a new Bank account is bogus.
Please don’t worry and order withdrawal to LibertyReserve, PerfectMoney, EcuMoney or Bank wire. And I recommend never use
Strictpay again in the future, they are scammers.
4. Reinvest button will start working 1st of January 2010, you can leave any amount at Cash Available balance.
5. Next investment term 1st of January – 25th of December 2010, payments from Monday – Friday. Compounding CAP is 800%,
after reaching this limit – daily non compounded interest only, calculator will be updated after 25th of December 2009.
6. CashTanker will go PRIVATE after 1st of Janurary 2010, and only 5 referrals will be allowed. If you have more than 5 referrals
already you won’t be able to refer nobody and they will stay with you.
7. Referral commission will be paid if your referral reinvest for the
next year (after 1st of January). Minimum to reinvest for the next year – 25 USD.
Blessed day,
Sam Serino”
Matt says:
December 15, 2009 at 10:35 am (UTC -5)
I got the same emial. It will be interesting to see if payments go out. I only wish ALL investors were 100% required to cash out to their PP. If everyone gets their principal back plus interest, then we would know for sure Sam knows how to make money. As it is, many are saying they will keep their money in the program for next year, if thats the case, we will never know if those that get paid (if they get paid) are being paid with funds from members that didn’t cash out.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 15, 2009 at 4:46 pm (UTC -5)
So StrictPay caught on to Sam after all. I would guess he’ll continue to make StrictPay sound like the badguy and his desperate flock of Cash Tanker sheep will just go with it and believe him. Then when Sam fails to pay everyone he’ll revert right back to the StrictPay excuse and convince a large part of his daydreaming community to look at him as the victim.
I know nothing is certain, but just making an educated guess based on what I’ve seen with ponzis on this level. I think I should also mention that as far as sleazy payment processors go, StrictPay would take 1st place right now. This wouldn’t be the first time a big payment processor realized it was working with ponzi pushing customers and decided to screw the scamming admin. I really doubt that’s the case here but it could be and either way Sam will claim that’s exactly what happened, when in reality his program was doomed to ponzi failure nonetheless.
Keep sharing the emails. They may be written by a oversees con artist who isn’t familiar with grammar or spell check but they still do give us a clue as to what he is planning.
Matt says:
December 15, 2009 at 7:05 pm (UTC -5)
It will be hard to continue to blame StrictPay considering Sam says he is “100%” ready to pay despite the issue with StrictPay. If he wanted his members to view him as the victim, he missed his chance. However, a scammer of this magnitude will likely have the next excuse ready to go. There wont be any development in this saga until Dec. 20-25th. Any members concerned about getting scammed will have ordered a full withdraw and will either get paid, or not get paid. I’m still surprised that a ponzi artist would set a payout date for all members. Is this common in ponzis? I thought ponzis depend on constant, steady growth to survive. Any thoughts?
Matt says:
December 15, 2009 at 7:09 pm (UTC -5)
Sam has always said he is in the Seychelles (frech I think). Serino sounds Italian to me so either way English is likely not his native language. Thus the members might not be to concerned about his grammer. Also, in the Income-Portal forum on his website, Sam is registered as living in Belize. Pretty careless if he is trying to fool anyone.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm (UTC -5)
Matt, in answer to your question about why Sam would set a payout date, I have seen ponzi admins delay the payout dates from just a few days away to several months. As an example, Sam may make an announcement around December 20-25 that payouts won’t be completed until January 30 due to banking complications, StrictPay, or some other series of BS excuses. Then once January comes due, the next announcement may state that payouts won’t be complete until February or March.
That example is assuming that Sam decides to keep stringing people along, and although I think Sam will probably just jump ship before the end of December, he may very well decide to play the excuse game as long as he can. Many ponzi admins of the past were very creative, and when you have a group of sheep as delusional as Sam’s members, you can keep the excuses going for a long time.
crownzaucer says:
December 16, 2009 at 1:15 am (UTC -5)
I hope most of you realize that in ponzi schemes like these, some of the morons invested will keep believing until NEXT Christmas that sam serino is going to eventually pay them, no matter if he feeds them excuses or not. all i’ve ever seen as support for sam’s pathetic program is ‘have faith’ and ‘believe in him,’ you know the average ponzi scheme cult barf.
Whew reality sure is a bitch aint it? because if anyone is still so hyped up on the koolaid that they can’t see serino and his program for what it is, they are in for a long grueling battle with reality.
Ingar Paaske says:
December 16, 2009 at 1:30 am (UTC -5)
So many strange comments and doubts about Cash Tanker and Sam Serino?
Are you people not informed? Have you done a DD?
I did, half year ago and have benefits 4%, 7 days a week the first months, before Sam reduced to 5 days a week. Because he wanted the weekend to rest. Even these 2 days off, people complain, because they “lost” interest.
You guys that still complain, because you have to wait a few days for getting paid by bank wire (or LR), you should definitely quit joining such program that Sam is offering here. You really don’t deserve to be a part of this!
These payment processors are always messing with your funds, specially when it comes up to a certain amount, therefor Sam take action so people, like me, and others can withdraw easily via bank wire. 2-5 days, never a glitch!
Thanks for your attention!
crownzaucer says:
December 16, 2009 at 3:08 am (UTC -5)
Wow Ingar you are in the WRONG place. this is not another ‘praise Sam and Cash Tanker” website.
The only worthwhile comments and complaints you’ll see here are from educated or logical people that can see how disgusting Sam Serino and his ponzi scheme is going to turn out. have YOU done DD Ingar? on hyips or ponzi schemes? clearly not or you wouldn’t have dared to come in here standing up for Sam, looking like a total ass.
Did you fail to withdraw your money earlier, Ingar? you might as well quit pleading with Sam because your money is gone like the wind! next time you jump into something promising you riches to the sky through the internet, you make sure to do that ‘DD’ that you just tried to scold everyone else about. anyone with a small straw of common sense could see that Cash Tanker was an obvious ponzi scam 6 months ago already.
Ingar Paaske says:
December 16, 2009 at 4:19 am (UTC -5)
Seems that somebody don’t like to read the truth…..
Envy, maybe…?
crownzaucer says:
December 16, 2009 at 4:56 pm (UTC -5)
I love to read the truth, which is far from any ‘praise Sam’ jibberish you’ve hocked up on this blog.
Yeah sure Ingar, we’re envious that you’re about to lose all your investments in one of the most transparent hyip ponzi schemes ever pasted on the internet, i guess. boy oh boy you poor cash tanker cheerleaders are going to be in for one rough christmas.
Jason says:
December 16, 2009 at 5:18 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar CT will scam soon
but 1 thing that I agree with you..i hate crybabies that repeat the same thing over and over
CT is a ponzi and we know it all..no need to be saying the same bullsh** 50000 times
crownzaucer says:
December 16, 2009 at 5:31 pm (UTC -5)
OH BOY it’s everyone’s least favorite ponzi scam circus chump, JASON!!!
Hey Jason do tell us what new scams you’ve joined or plan to join real soon to supplement cash tanker. we all know you love raking in illegal money through ponzi scheme theft that screws other people over. the only reason you hate people like me that keep repeating the truth is because it reiterates just how dirty and greedy you really are. don’t like facing the truth, do you?
Jason says:
December 16, 2009 at 6:21 pm (UTC -5)
I wont mention other hyips that i am joining because i dont recruit or advertise. I am not Brad kamanski lol
but yes i have other programs that i am ready to join..and i really don’t give a rat’s behind what you think of me:)
Matt says:
December 16, 2009 at 7:36 pm (UTC -5)
Those that are cheering for this program just don’t understand what they’re saying. If you are in profit, you were paid with funds from other investors. You should hope CT doesn’t pay you on Dec. 20th so you don’t continue to take money away from others that got decieved. Has anyone ever asked StrictPay if CT ever funded their account with outside funds?
crownzaucer says:
December 16, 2009 at 11:39 pm (UTC -5)
Well Matt I sure agree with you 100% on that one, but the problem is that you have many people in cash tanker like Jason that love to profit by playing ponzis and as he put it ‘don’t give a rat’s behind’ who gets hurt in the process. very disgusting and it’s even worse to think about how many people in cash tanker will get hurt because of the overpowering greed involved here.
I still hope the arrogant idiots like Brad kamanski that promoted this and posted long cheerleader videos on youtube get their fat asses sued. that should teach some of biggest ponzi boys involved in these programs to think twice before openly jumping into a ponzi scheme and pulling out the megaphone and pom poms. someone needs to teach these scam pimpers a lesson or they’ll never stop hurting people with their foolish recommendations.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 17, 2009 at 3:39 pm (UTC -5)
Dear ladies and gentlemen, here it is, straight from StrictPay themselves. They admit what I’ve suspected all along. Read it and you’ll find Sam didn’t even have enough money leftover to satisfy a puny $3000 withdrawal request.
___________
CashTanker’s decision to cancel all StrictPay orders was foreseen and expected, as he does not have nearly enough funds to cover withdraw requests. At the moment, there is $2406.18 in their account. To be frank, his account has never been suspended. He can login right now and do anything but send money. We disabled his ability to send money when he said he wouldn’t be paying customers until December 20-25. While we try to trust all of our customers, it is common for websites to make claims like this when they can no longer pay their members in an attempt to drag them on as long as possible.
Also, it is worthy to note that this is not the first time he has tried to blame us for his problems. We had a system issue a few weeks back and he could not make payments using the AutoPay system for about 24 hours, and this affected all merchants. When all other merchants continued to use the service, he then told his customers that we were delaying his payments for the next few weeks, when in fact his balance was the limitation in his ability to make payments.
With that said, CashTanker has never funded their account with their own money. All funds that were ever available in their account were received from other customers. They told their customers that they sent us a wire to fund the account, yet we have still never received a single funding from them of any type. They have always been free to fund their account to pay their customers, and in fact we hope that they do. The fact is, over the past few weeks of their account activity, they started making payments to customers and draining their account on a daily basis. The reason we let this go on is simple, they were paying their customers.
I think it goes without saying that we have not stolen all of their funds. Why would we risk losing thousands of loyal customers over a couple thousand dollars? It just doesn’t make sense. Also, we already have one new bank account running and functional, and are simply waiting for a few others to finalize the process on their end. CashTanker and Sam may call us what they would like, but in the end we will still be here and it is unfortunately likely that they will not.
We hope that they do make their payments as promised, between the 20th and 25th of December, as there are obviously thousands of customers that will be hurt if they do not. We feel confident that our customers will see through this desperate ploy and realize the truth. And, for those that don’t, we fully understand and respect your decision.
Sincerely,
StrictPay Administration
Dan says:
December 17, 2009 at 5:24 pm (UTC -5)
I trust strict pay over mysterious sam anyday. We know nothing about him or his background except he likes to use Jesus as marketing which I think like others is really inconsiderate. If CT was real why would strict pay even think of blocking sam? Nothing to gain by that. I came to terms a long time ago that what sam was doing didn’t make a whole lot of sense and his payout delay scheme fits right in with all this. It’s a scam, always was a scam and now we’re looking at the final days before sam disappears. I was just in the forums and its full of fools that wouldn’t know a scam if it bit them in the bidonkers, so if you see people praising sam, heed them not. They are ridiculous dreamers that don’t know what they’re talking about. The money is gone and the only thing that may be spared is the $2400 that strict pay managed to save.
Matt says:
December 17, 2009 at 11:34 pm (UTC -5)
WAIT JUST A MIN. Ponzi CHAMP. That quote did not come from StrictPay. It came from Paul at Money News Online. The reason I say this is because Paul has everything to gain from his readers thinking there is nothing wrong with StrictPay. He makes $$$ when people read his blog and invest in HYIP programs (many times via SP). Here is what Paul said:
You know that I usually don’t mention the programs which I don’t monitor but in the case of CashTanker and its scamming admin I simply must make an exception. They accused the favorite payment processor of many online investors – StrictPay – of stealing members’ money and the intention to scam. I have received a few concerned e-mails from MNO readers today quoting the admin of CashTanker Sam Serino. Here it is:
“ALL StrictPay orders will be cancelled because this payment system blocked my account and stolen all the funds, moreover
they are running away and won’t be able to complete all the withdrawal and information about a new Bank account is bogus.
Please don’t worry and order withdrawal to LibertyReserve, PerfectMoney, EcuMoney or Bank wire. And I recommend never use
StrictPay again in the future, they are scammers.”
As you might be aware StrictPay don’t usually freeze accounts within good reason so in an attempt to find out the truth I contacted StrictPay and got a very detailed reply which I think will ease your doubts about StrictPay but will also raise some questions about the honesty and integrity of Mr. Serino who is obviously a scammer in my opinion. So here is the official reply from StrictPay to those allegations:
“CashTanker’s decision to cancel all StrictPay orders was foreseen and expected, as he does not have nearly enough funds to cover withdraw requests. At the moment, there is $2406.18 in their account. To be frank, his account has never been suspended. He can login right now and do anything but send money. We disabled his ability to send money when he said he wouldn’t be paying customers until December 20-25. While we try to trust all of our customers, it is common for websites to make claims like this when they can no longer pay their members in an attempt to drag them on as long as possible.
Also, it is worthy to note that this is not the first time he has tried to blame us for his problems. We had a system issue a few weeks back and he could not make payments using the AutoPay system for about 24 hours, and this affected all merchants. When all other merchants continued to use the service, he then told his customers that we were delaying his payments for the next few weeks, when in fact his balance was the limitation in his ability to make payments.
With that said, CashTanker has never funded their account with their own money. All funds that were ever available in their account were received from other customers. They told their customers that they sent us a wire to fund the account, yet we have still never received a single funding from them of any type. They have always been free to fund their account to pay their customers, and in fact we hope that they do. The fact is, over the past few weeks of their account activity, they started making payments to customers and draining their account on a daily basis. The reason we let this go on is simple, they were paying their customers.
I think it goes without saying that we have not stolen all of their funds. Why would we risk losing thousands of loyal customers over a couple thousand dollars? It just doesn’t make sense. Also, we already have one new bank account running and functional, and are simply waiting for a few others to finalize the process on their end. CashTanker and Sam may call us what they would like, but in the end we will still be here and it is unfortunately likely that they will not.
We hope that they do make their payments as promised, between the 20th and 25th of December, as there are obviously thousands of customers that will be hurt if they do not. We feel confident that our customers will see through this desperate ploy and realize the truth. And, for those that don’t, we fully understand and respect your decision.
Sincerely, StrictPay Administration”.
http://money-news-online.com/blog/
Matt says:
December 17, 2009 at 11:42 pm (UTC -5)
Ponzi CHAMP left off the part where Paul defends SP. He calls them his favorite PP and he even says his response is an answer to his concerned readers. He’ll say anything to get his readers to continue to trust SP so he can continue to trick them into investing in HYIP’s so he makes money. I’m not even sure if the interview with SP is real. Don’t trust Paul, he is a mega-HYIP-cheerleader. He will say anything to get you to trust him and invest in his HYIP’s. “CT is a scam but come follow me and I’ll show you how to really make money”. I’m not buying it and you shouldn’t either.
Matt says:
December 17, 2009 at 11:47 pm (UTC -5)
Just to be clear, my beef is with Paul and Money News Online. What Pauls says SP said is probably true. I hope it is. I hope Paul really contacted SP and quoted them accuratly on his blog. I’m just saying he did it in an effort to get more sheep to read his blog and invest through his affiliate links. I emailed SP to see if they were quoted accuratly and will post any reply I get.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 18, 2009 at 3:49 am (UTC -5)
Hey Matt, I admit that I don’t know anything about Paul or his money news online blog, but the response posted about StrictPay seemed pretty realistic to me. I’m not sure if that was Paul who posted the version I read or not, but in case it was, I would like to hear any follow up you receive through StrictPay.
It is unfortunate to hear that the person quoting StrictPay is doing so only to lead Cash Tanker victims into some other fly by night scam. Many of the people that are active in ponzis and try to come off as good samaritans only pretend to care about others losses so they can coax victims to join new scams. It’s a rather rotten trick but its also common practice. Watch out for the wolves!
Jason says:
December 18, 2009 at 12:15 pm (UTC -5)
Cash tanker is a scam
Strictpay has no reason to scam anyone. Sam has to because he has no money left.
thats just how ponzi works.
Paul from MNO is a heavy Hyip investor. I just don;t like ppl that advertise and recruit..
Matt says:
December 21, 2009 at 6:29 pm (UTC -5)
Tick Tock Tick Tock. Dec. 20-25th is upon us. Our man Sam said he was 100% ready to pay. I assume if people are getting paid they would be all about getting in here with “I told you so!” and “The Lord has provided!”
¿Donde está?
Matt says:
December 22, 2009 at 12:02 am (UTC -5)
Here is the reply from StrictPay concerning Paul at MNO. I’m not surprised, these two are making a ton of cash off referring people to all sorts of HYIP’s.
Matt
We did do an interview with him in the past, so the information is accurate. We are also going to be doing another interview with him sometime after the first of the year.
Thanks
Liz
It’s a bit vague and I asked some follow ups, I will post anything I hear. It def looks like the Cash Tank has finally run dry. I still can’t believe a scam artist would set a date for total pay-offs. I guess the angle is to get people to think they will get there money back sooner than normal and hope they trust it’s totally not a ponzi. Anyone that stopped for a second to think it through would know for sure a ponzi can’t pay everyone on the same day.
shoutit says:
December 23, 2009 at 12:15 am (UTC -5)
Here with latest email sam has sent out today.
Dear Valuable Member, Wire has been sent. The money will reach your banking account in next 3-5 banking days. It’s A Pleasure To Serve You!Sam Serino CashTanker Admin
Matt says:
December 23, 2009 at 12:34 am (UTC -5)
Interesting, but nobody has actually been paid yet, right? Might be a ploy, might be for real. Soon we will know. By the way, I scared off StrictPay and now they wont return my emails. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose if they talk to me. I can’t make them money like Paul at MNO can.
Sue says:
December 24, 2009 at 7:10 pm (UTC -5)
Geeezzzz you guys are quick to jump down Sam’s throat. He has paid people, who was not compounding, and has only just now processed withdrawals . Why don’t you all wait and see in the next week or 2 whether or not we will be paid. Then if not, say what you want, but give the guy a break.
Jason says:
December 24, 2009 at 7:35 pm (UTC -5)
Sue if you still believe in this ponzi you have a major problem
CT is a ponzi scheme and it collapsed..he hasn’t paid anyone..i dont know where you get the idea that he paid..he paid no one..because his ponzi is dead now.
if you are new to hyips welcome to the dark side of hyips. If you are an experienced hyip player you should know better
Ingar Paaske says:
December 24, 2009 at 9:14 pm (UTC -5)
Jason says: “he hasn’t paid anyone”
What do you know about that? It’s very easy to write some words and think that people will “swallow your truth”.
But you shall know, us receivers of funds from CT don’t put much energy into your and your friends comments here.
But, honestly, it’s some funny readings, we can laugh off.
I wish you all a great new year!
Jason says:
December 24, 2009 at 9:43 pm (UTC -5)
ha..if you really believe that you will be paid by Sam..you have some major problem really.
CT is a ponzi scheme..what part of that dont you understand? being a cheerleader wont get you anywhere. Ct is a scam a ponzi..if you still dont realize it please dont invest in hyips..shame on you if you think it’s all legit lol
Ingar Paaske says:
December 24, 2009 at 10:32 pm (UTC -5)
I post here because I KNOW, not because I “believe”.
Well, anyway, YOU are still funny Jason, I BELIEVE!
Matthew says:
December 25, 2009 at 10:00 am (UTC -5)
I really don’t care if you “know or if you “believe.” I put in 1000$, took out 1000 as soon as i could then just watched after that. If you invested and were too stupid to get your primary back then I’m sorry. As far as I’m concerned as soon as i saw my primary back it was nothing but play money after that.
Jason says:
December 25, 2009 at 3:55 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar Cash tanker website is gone now and it scammed finally..now I guess you dont know anything about hyips..Ingar if you are a newbie please educate yourself and stop being a Cheerleader..Ct is dead
Jason says:
December 25, 2009 at 4:26 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar are you part of CT ponzi scam? or are you actually SAM? you talk like you know whats going on while you have still have no clue that the CT ponzi scam is over lol
hmm says:
December 26, 2009 at 12:34 pm (UTC -5)
Its all over
SamBam says:
December 26, 2009 at 3:40 pm (UTC -5)
The website is down. . and NO payment yet? Yeah we may have been taken, but I’m surpraised Strictpay doesn’t do more to check these programs out?
John says:
December 26, 2009 at 8:16 pm (UTC -5)
Ive havent got any money and ive invest A LOT OF FUCKING money.
Im stupid…never gonna belive any of this shit anymore. Every fucking investing program is the same.
Get a job instead.
John/ Sweden
crownzaucer says:
December 26, 2009 at 8:35 pm (UTC -5)
HEY PONZI pimping Ingar where did you go??! don’t you have anything to say following your praise Sam “I BELIEVE” BS now that the website is down? no? then STFU once and for all and quit making the situation here worse you damn wacked up ponzi cheerleader!!
For the first time i think i actually agree with jason here. if you really believe it’s worth trying to convince other people in cash tanker that the stupid ponzi is going to pay you, you’re either insane or sam serino himself!
Ingar Paaske says:
December 26, 2009 at 10:18 pm (UTC -5)
Crownzaucer and Jason!
I have never said that I BELIEVE, except that I believe YOU, are FUNNY, indeed!!! I have never praised Sam, or someone else.
I’m definitely not a Ponzi pimper, but I like that the truth come true, nothing else!
I wish you all the best for the new year!
Jason says:
December 26, 2009 at 10:29 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar
The truth is Sam is a scammer and CT ponzi is gone! and yes for the first time i agree is crown as well
crownzaucer says:
December 26, 2009 at 10:33 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar you lying ponzi pimping asshole! you’ve cheered sam serino and his idiotic ponzi along the whole time and now that you’re starting to realize you’re wrong, you don’t want to face up to the facts. the “TRUTH” has already come out, you’re just either too corrupt or too stupid to see and admit it.
Ingar Paaske says:
December 27, 2009 at 4:27 am (UTC -5)
Maybe your name should be Clown…
Ingar Paaske says:
December 27, 2009 at 7:32 am (UTC -5)
By the way, I haven’t applauded any programs here, and never tried to sell anything to others. So I can’t understand what wrong I should realize?
Anyway, when I tell you some truth, it is, even YOU believe it or not. Maybe you Clown… have made up your mind, and that’s ok, it’s your right, but don’t blame others with different experiences than you!
Steve says:
December 27, 2009 at 8:07 am (UTC -5)
The experience HYPE players. Why get all fired up that yet another ponzi went under. I didn’t promote CT. Or do I promote any of them. But I make a living, quite handsome living off of them, as as with CT. I’m sure the season vet have done also. For the newbies their are plenty blogs that gives you clear and cut advise how you can to make great profits from hypes. You don’t need to drag anyone into these arena. Don’t be greedy. Help others, instead of using others as you learn the trade of playing the HYPE game.
Misnadi says:
December 27, 2009 at 8:21 am (UTC -5)
Saya ini Orang Indonesia yang yang berharap banyak pada Cash Tanker tapi tidak kembali uang saya janjinya tanggal 25 Desemer uang bisa ditarik semua tapi sudah lewat ini saya harus mengadu ke mana….????
Misnadi says:
December 27, 2009 at 8:33 am (UTC -5)
I was the Indonesia People who expect a lot of Cash Tanker but not my money back promise on 25 Desemer money can be withdrawn all but this was after I had to complain to where … .???? Please if you know someone could be arrested or my money dikembalika LR account U9038644 for $ 1000
Jason says:
December 27, 2009 at 9:57 am (UTC -5)
I am way way in profit with CT.
But i just hate cheerleaders and jackasses who think they know what they are talking about like Ingar lol
I am a hyip veteran. And i know CT ponzi scam is gone.
You are a pathetic fool
Ingar Paaske says:
December 27, 2009 at 10:05 am (UTC -5)
Thanks Jason, try to teach me how to act and behave.
Maybe you should look into your own “mirror” for awhile, before you throw dirt everywhere.
Jason says:
December 27, 2009 at 5:22 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar you are a complete jackass
What part of CT is a scam and wont pay anyone” dont you understand??
are you retarded?
I made huge profit with CT but that doesn’t mean it is not a scam..of Course its a scam..this is just a game. If you still think Sam will come back and pay everyone.. You are a piece of junk:) Play hyip quietly don’t give me all this BS that make no sense. Do you still think Sam will come back? Lol just because you are in profit with CT doesn’t mean you can be a cheerleader u know?
I tripled my money but the truth is the truth moron
Ingar Paaske says:
December 27, 2009 at 10:16 pm (UTC -5)
Maybe Jason, I’m retarded, because I don’t value myself at the level you do for yourself.
People with big, shouting mouth like you and Clown…, usually don’t have much basic…..
John says:
December 27, 2009 at 10:33 pm (UTC -5)
Hey Guys, everyone but everyone should know that HYIP are ponzis just like lotto but that should
not stop us from playing them if we have an urge to do so, I don’t know about you but when I buy a
lotto ticket run by the government I think to myself this is a waste of money BUT, lotto pays winning
tickets from the losing tickets the same as bookmakers pay the prize money from the losers, hey
HYIPs are no different they pay the winners from the losers, now you might bring up about the unscrupulous
ones who entice other to join knowing full well they have a good chance to lose their money, hey what about
the millions of dollars that State Governments spend enticing us to buy lotto tickets knowing full well that 99.9999%
can’t win, well sometimes we get our money back but I don’t reckon that is winning.
Now about using religious icons for our own use, that’s has been going on for 5000 years I reckon starting with the Hindus,
I doubt if there is any religious icon that has not been abused by it followers to better the organisation or individuals within
the organisation since its inception and goes on to this day and most probably will keep on going on.
I started of by saying everyone but everyone should know that HYIPs are ponzis, well of course they don’t but if they haven’t
woke up to this fact by their third of fourth loss then they have a problem, what would you say if Eric was crying because
he borrowed $500 to buy a lotto ticket and it lost and now he has no money and no job to pay back the loan, would you be
shouting at the Government to stop selling or promoting lotto tickets, or would you tell Eric to grow up and be responsible for
his own actions.
The internet is what it is and I for one don’t want to see it changed, I am not a fan of having it controlled by goverments to
protect the fool from himself, yep the internet is a mine trap and we will all get caught sooner or later but we have to wise
up or get out, but let that be our decision not the Governments.
johnny says:
December 28, 2009 at 2:27 am (UTC -5)
^^^^^Very True^^^^^^^
steve says:
December 28, 2009 at 8:36 am (UTC -5)
Basically everything you say is wrong. Many people have gotten paid, I have gotten paid. He does tell what he is doing. Stop harassing a private program without knowing what it is about. You can’t even get into it anymore, so it is not harming anyone, only those who were fortunate to get in before it closed. You can only get in with a referral and why would a friend of yours refer you if he wasn’t making money? Use your head.
He’s using the most lucrative, stable investment out there that pension funds and insurance companies use and SAYS SO OPENLY, not only in his mission statement, but in private interveiws available to members.
If you want to publicise scams, I can tell you about the biggest scam in the country. If you want to bring up the Christian issue (he didn’t even mention it when I got in) I can show you that most Christians are involved and there is ample proof that it is what I say it is. It goes against everything in the Bible.
RISHI says:
December 28, 2009 at 9:25 am (UTC -5)
Cash Tanker is a really scam only.Don’t believe it.Don’t try to invest in the cash tanker.He has looted from many members.Now,he has closed his cash tanker website.He has prepared to go hell by looting money.Let him enjoy in the hell.
crownzaucer says:
December 28, 2009 at 12:40 pm (UTC -5)
So the cash tanker jumble continues on and on. at the very least Ingar admitted he had issues with retardation, that starts to explain the stupidity we’ve had to choke down as we’ve read through his last 10 comments. funny to see steve, another completely clueless joker who thinks sam serino and his ponzi junk is real just because he’s been paid a couple times. what a line of ignorant BS.
I feel like I’m surrounded by a bunch of teenage loud mouths that hit their heads by falling out of a car going 80. they’re so remarkably lost and unaware all you can really do is keeping pointing out their stupid comments and chuckle to yourself. steve, ingar you two ponzi jumbled fools really think this is all going to work out? LOL i bet you both are the same type of person, the type that will be waiting for months on end with “FAITH” that Sam’s cash tanker is going to eventually rise up and pay you. have fun with that. in the mean time we’ll keep laughing at you from here until you finally realize the obvious truth that anyone with a pigeon’s brain has already figured out several month’s prior to sam’s december announcement.
Since you’re both so very lost, let me point out that truth once more for you. SAM SERINO IS A PONZI SCAMMER AND YOUR MONEY IS GONE!!!
Jason says:
December 28, 2009 at 4:50 pm (UTC -5)
Crown No need to waste your voice
Its because they jut can’t face the truth..they dont want to accept it because they are retarded.so it’s better to just say nothing more.
I profited with CT..but I dont kiss ass. Sam can kiss my ass:)
joney says:
December 29, 2009 at 1:39 pm (UTC -5)
my take on it is this: if I am an investor and decide to invest in a “scheme” knowing I may lose it all – and other investors invest assuming the same thing – does that then make the scheme operator a “crook” or “fraud” or any other names?
Yeah Mikey is an idiot but the truth is any seasoned HYIP “player” knows the game – and if you know the game, lose your life savings while making the next player rich as a result, then that next player should feel ABSOLUTELY NO REMORSE for the fact that the previous player lost his life savings. Why should they? If we play with fire then we should accept the fact we may get burned. What amazes me is that these HYIP’s promise the world when in fact they would pull in the same if not more investment money just flat out disclosing the fact that the fund is an international money game and nothing more and that all players could lose everything.
Then when operators walk away with millions as a result of the 10000 dummies that signed their financials away everyone can say “i told you so” everyone moves on without a second thought about it.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 29, 2009 at 2:16 pm (UTC -5)
Okay, I admit this has been a little difficult to read through. Sure enough we have the same endless cheerleading from desperate fools like with any HYIP, but even those who have come to terms with the reality behind Cash Tanker are under some impression that as long as they profited, they have done no harm and should go on their merry way with a smile on their face.
Nothing could be farther from the truth. In most countries legal system, if you enter into a scam with an attempt to profit while all the time knowing it was illegal you are liable for your conscious decision to involve yourself with something illegal. You can be severely fined and face prison time. Why is that? Because greedy people who feed scams, get “lucky” and profit are spurring on the ponzi scheme, giving it life and allowing it to grow larger and larger and hurt more and more people.
We have so many here who think they are innocent simply because they are not Sam the scammer himself in all this. Not true! Those who knew that Cash Tanker was a ponzi all along and profited have done so through the theft from the naive that deposited with Sam Serino. From an ethical standard its really not too different from aiding robbery.
I’m not going to sugar coat the truth. People who play around with ponzi schemes, profit and then stand up to brag about their earnings lack ethics. I won’t even bother to go into all the legal violations, because being honest here, Cash Tanker was such a pitiful miniature scam it probably won’t gain too much attention from international authorities, if any. Just know that the law does punish such activity in larger scams.
I leave on that note and probably will have nothing further to discuss. I’m sure I’ll be met by some of the arrogant Cash Tanker’s profiteers crude justifications, as each HYIP has them, but it doesn’t change the fact that knowingly fooling around in scams in hopes to gain by ponzi theft is wrong. The warning has been given and the truth told. Do with it what you will.
Richard says:
December 29, 2009 at 3:50 pm (UTC -5)
I’ve been following the ponzischeme blog for a while and figure its time to comment ha. Funny I was going to say exactly what the Champ just did, I can hardly believe people who join scams and know they are scams think what they do is good or fair. Over years ive also seen people compare www ponzi scams to lottery and games but that twisted excuses doesnt change what they are. These scams cannot exist without greed and big first investors. Champ is right when he says they give life to the ponzi and it is a very evil life. Everything about these scams is disgusting and I can’t believe people join these willingly to try to make a quick dollar and think what they do isn’t wrong. Thats very scary.
HC says:
December 30, 2009 at 3:15 pm (UTC -5)
I invested because of a “good” referral $45.00 gone with the wind.
I am saddened that he uses God’s name in vain.
Linda says:
December 30, 2009 at 6:53 pm (UTC -5)
I’m so glad I didn’t refer any one
this BS, good thing I only invested 50.00. I feel bad for anyone else who have lost more than that. Sam is a sad and sick puppy for using Gods name to recruit people into his world of deceitfulness. God do not like uglyness.
Bill says:
December 30, 2009 at 10:12 pm (UTC -5)
So the tanker tanks at last…not that anyone should be surprised lol.. If anyone lost any real money….heres that list of sam’s accomplices once more lest we not forget eh? .. if anyone wants the more detailed info…hollar and I’ll post it up…….
SCOTT KALECHSTEIN
TOM SULLIVAN
SCOTT SNIDER
BRAD KAMANSKI
CAREECE CHICHESTER
JUNE DIGGLE
WESLEY STANDLEE
PRINCE IKE MUOGBO
KYLE WATT
REV. SATHYA KUMARA B
FREDERICUS BAWA WICAKSANA
CHRIS LOMBARDI
SEBY OUSEPH
DAVID A. RUSS
TOBY ( ? )
MARINA J CHRAPKO
GARY MAX NORTON
DAVID STEWART
RICARDO VARGAS
Del says:
December 31, 2009 at 2:40 am (UTC -5)
I invested in cashtanker 2 months
ago.I try to beleive that people are truthful. There is big money
invested every day in the world.
We have credit cards that charge anywhere from 6 to 32% intrest
that money is going to banks not the people.I was refered by a friend to CT. He had already invested in CT with his own money.
I gess it goes back to the old saying,if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
I am a christian and was drawn in by sarinos website, thinking that he to was a christian person.
I am through with these scams.
I will have to take my loss and learn from it.
Jason says:
December 31, 2009 at 10:39 am (UTC -5)
Ingar Cheerleader finally shut up.
Thats a good sign!:)
Warren Contreras dot com says:
December 31, 2009 at 2:27 pm (UTC -5)
So let’s shut down all the Casinos and race tracks too, people know going in that the odds are against them, but they get a thrill out of trying. I made thousands from HYIP last year, and I will “Do it again in 2010″! I just don’t use my own money.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm (UTC -5)
Warren, when I walk into a casino and play a game, I understand my risk and can research the odds of winning vs losing. The same is true with race tracks and all other legalized forms of gambling.
That’s quite a bit different from some charlatan using a disguise and false investment model, leading naive people to invest money because they believe it stands a chance of longer term survival.
Take any HYIP game you will and imagine the admin didn’t lie, instead assume he stated right on his site it was a ponzi. That program will be dead in a week. Why? Because these internet ponzis rely on large numbers of naive people that are not familiar with ponzis and really believe they have found a magical investment of some sort.
Though, none of the HYIP gamblers out there will want to admit this, because they would essentially be admitting that they were profiting off the poor naive newbies that get hurt in each ponzi that comes and goes. Just remember Warren as you try to make thousands more dollars from HYIP playing in 2010, you’re doing nothing more than stealing it from the ignorant. Why else do you think governments are so harsh on ponzi related money laundering? It’s theft, no matter how any of you people want to justify it, and you’ll place yourself in a position to leave a pretty dishonorable legacy if you spend your time trying to “come out on top” and steal through ponzi withdrawals.
Ponzi CHAMP says:
December 31, 2009 at 4:59 pm (UTC -5)
Almost forgot.
Happy New Years, everyone! May all the HYIP players start the new year with a resolution to give up this ugly ponzi jockey nonsense and find something more productive and respectful as a financial hobby.
Jason says:
December 31, 2009 at 8:38 pm (UTC -5)
Warren I make money off Hyips too investing my own money though
I hate people like you who recruit like you. like brad kamanski.. if you want to play with hyips do it with ur own money.. You are one of the biggest OLD ad4u ponzi scam promoters and I just have recruiters like you
cthedreem says:
January 1, 2010 at 5:32 am (UTC -5)
I gave up.If sam was going to pay us he would have already done so now,this always looked pretty scamy so it comes as no shock. I get over it in time but it does hurt to lose 200$ in tough times.Sam is without heart and is a bad man. To steal from us now like this make me mad,he will be lucky to avoid the worst karma. Damn cashtanker
Mr. Ryz says:
January 1, 2010 at 5:08 pm (UTC -5)
I wanted to quickly wish everyone participating in this discussion a very happy New Year!
The Cash Tanker fiasco has brought about a great deal of bitterness and frustration, but as 2010 approaches, victims can indeed reflect upon the valuable lessons learned between realistic investments and dangerous ponzi schemes driven by greed.
May wealth and wisdom follow you into the new year, 2010!
- Mr. Ryz
crownzaucer says:
January 1, 2010 at 5:31 pm (UTC -5)
Thankya Mr Ryz, hope a great year awaits you too. many people are starting off this year in the hole all thanks to ponzi lies. hopefully this lesson will stick in a few people’s heads and they’ll realize what they’re up against next time some clown boy promises them 90% on their money each month lol.
way2wealth says:
January 1, 2010 at 6:50 pm (UTC -5)
Well now at least I know the man who referred me to this is a big jackass . He still recommends a lot of high return programs that look too good to be true but Ive never been a money guy myself so I thought hey- maybe it all works out. ALLL SCAMS I bet! Before you recommend something online to someone you should be sure you know what you are talking about. Its not fair for us to suffer because some idiots wanted to recommend cash tanker and make more money.
Marcus says:
January 1, 2010 at 9:38 pm (UTC -5)
I almost invested with Cash Tanker., and now i see that i glad i did, but what about other programs out there like Genius and Verifield.? Are any of these companies real investment companies at all, and how are the governing bodies that over see these things.? Are saying to me that is that easy to just establish a website with out any legal documentation reflecting that this company / person is a legitimate investment company..??
Marcus says:
January 1, 2010 at 9:51 pm (UTC -5)
Can some one point me to a safe place to invest.?? Sorry in my first comment, I meant to say that I’m glad that I didn’t not invest with Cash Tanker.. Is anything out there legit.??
Anonymous says:
January 2, 2010 at 2:15 am (UTC -5)
Ok. i guess everything i read are true and myself was proven and also my family. THIS CASH TANKER BIG SCAM and BULLSHIT. i did invest money and hoping to get my money back. Please some one can help me to get my money back. I thought it will be helpful for us but i guess not.
why are you guys never report this kind scam on tv news….
Ponzi CHAMP says:
January 2, 2010 at 2:50 pm (UTC -5)
Marcus, anyone can create a web site these days and claim it represents a legitimate investment company. There was never even one line of Sam’s presentation that suggested his program was legally sound, and even if he had been investing money instead of running a ponzi, his program’s structure was so full of illegal violations it was pathetic.
The truth about this ponzi was pretty easy to identify even months ago. The only reason people didn’t see it is because they let their greed overcome that little voice in their head saying ” Hey this is Common Sense. Do some research into high roi, internet investments, and scams.”
I’m not trying to make fun of the ignorant that lost with Cash Tanker, but that is the truth. Many people who shunned wisdom had to learn that the hard way too. Hopefully they’ll remember to be more careful next time they run into something like Cash Tanker.
As for the programs you mentioned, Genius Funds and Verifield look like nothing more than clever ponzis to me, and I’d have nothing to do with them. A couple others that were discussed here in the past are Guardian Equity and Infinitiva, and they show so many ponzi flags that I couldn’t comfortably toss a single dollar in their direction.
Mr. Ryz, the author of this article, had an interesting program that I took at look at. You may want to ask him about it. Though it did seem to have a legitimate investment source, I never joined because I resolved a long time ago to do my own trading. I’ve always felt more secure in doing so. He posted a link above somewhere, but I remember him also asking us to keep the topic on Cash Tanker so I’ll limit my discussion to this for now. Good luck and watch yourself and where you put your money.
Marcus says:
January 2, 2010 at 10:35 pm (UTC -5)
Ponzi Champ,
Thanks for your input, and you would not believe that some guy called SCOTT KALECHSTEIN, actually sent me an email, with a recording or himself chatting with his SideKick or Palm reader whatever person saying that Cash Tanker is coming back, and that we should just wait, “sam is a man of his word”!! And that Sam really did send out those payments. This is just sick. Tell you what, Anyone, that knows God, will tell you that the wrath of God the is due this Same Serino he himself, Sam, just might turn into a christian after.
People really need to stop using God to scam folks, people need to stop scam people Period! The judgement that is laid up for them is no joke.., So any way, you say, stay away form Verifield & Genius, I commuicated with them and they both claim to be real legitimate investment companies.. Casie Johnson of “imoneyreserve” also ran of into the sunset with my funds. How, How can we stop the people..
Ponzi CHAMP says:
January 3, 2010 at 3:22 am (UTC -5)
Marcus, of course whoever you talked to in Genius or Verifield is going to claim they represent a legitimate investment company. Some of these ponzis are extremely sly, and they might even rattle on about some expert investors managing funds with years of experience, yada yada.
But if they are a real legitimate programs and they can produce the crazy roi they claim, why are they bothering to take on the hassle of small accounts using ludicrous payment processors? Why don’t they post verifiable pictures and proof of their location and controllers? Why don’t they list their chief officers and proof of registration with the countries they do business in? Why haven’t they attracted endorsements from popular, credible investors?
You’ll start to see that picking out likely ponzis trying to hide between internet masks isn’t as difficult as you once thought, but continue to be very careful. Some of the ponzis out there can be very convincing. What sounds complex and confusing in an investment program is often misread as a good sign that the people behind the program are doing something legitimate, but that is quite incorrect! Don’t let big words and smooth speech on some of the more clever ponzis throw you for a loop. Research, research, research!
As for the fellow you mentioned in Cash Tanker, Scott Kalechstein, I don’t know what all has rotted his common sense away, but he has clearly turned into one of Sam’s largest cheering buffoons. I would expect his greed in Cash Tanker has made him desperate. Imagine all the money some people in Cash Tanker have made from selling themselves out by promoting the program for commission. Some people like Scott aren’t ready to accept the truth and will do anything to prolong the process of admitting their foolishness.
True Focus Group says:
January 3, 2010 at 8:49 am (UTC -5)
I invested in Cash Tanker thinking it was legit. But I stuck to the rule that states “never invest more than you can afford to lose.” I only invested $40.00. It grew to $131.00. I requested full cashout on December 16th by wire transfer. Got that e-mail (everyone else got) on the 22nd. Today is Jan 3 and no payment. I will probably not see it back from Sam (if that is even his real name) but I firmly believe that my Lord Jesus will give it back to me some other way by some other means That, I am assured of. God will deal with Sam in His time. I wish every one a Blessed and Prosperous 2010.
crownzaucer says:
January 3, 2010 at 12:55 pm (UTC -5)
Ponzi Champ, I think Scott Kalechstein must be more than another Cash Tanker cheering buffoon, as you put it. anyone who would still cheer this dead scam on and go through the trouble of sending emails to everyone telling them that Sam would return is either insane or deathly afraid of the people that will come after them.
Scott was a BIG TIME cheerleader and ponzi pimp and I’m sure he’s made a LOT of enemies through all this. now that Sam has finally run off, Scott realizes he’ll be forced to eventually hang the stupid-flag. his name and contact information were plastered everywhere, including on Sam’s funny “Happy christians” club lol. people can easily contact him and find him. if I had been as big of a ponzi cheerboy as Scott i would also be worried sick about the retaliation from people referred that lost a lot of money.
Anonymous says:
January 4, 2010 at 1:25 am (UTC -5)
cash tanker is not coming back anymore… SAM SERINO scam…. well if you use god word… KARMA will be with you soon.
I invest so much money including my family and now christmas and new year passed away and i still dont have money in my account.
Its January 4 2010…
someone invest says:
January 4, 2010 at 1:26 am (UTC -5)
cash tanker is not coming back anymore… SAM SERINO scam…. well if you use god word… KARMA will be with you soon.
I invest so much money including my family and now christmas and new year passed away and i still dont have money in my account.
Its January 4 2010…
righteouswing says:
January 4, 2010 at 1:26 pm (UTC -5)
Question for someone here. I invest $450 through strictpay but now that sam refuses to pay is strictpay partially to blame? I think its not fair that strictpay can work as payment option for any company and then not have to answer when they are involved in the scam. Can someone explain more?
Jason says:
January 4, 2010 at 3:19 pm (UTC -5)
Strictpay just takes ur money and transfers it to the ponzis.
Nothing wrong with SP since you chose to join Cashtanker
SP didn’t force you and they are not related to CT whatsoever
SO blame yourself.
Paul says:
January 4, 2010 at 3:43 pm (UTC -5)
Dear Crownzaucer,
Do not bash Scott Kalechstein he is a good man and he is a positive influence to this world in the way of his music and with his motivational e-mails. Scott cares about people and was just trying to help his contacts have another way to make money. Sam is the crook here not those people trying to help others better their current financial situation. Sam used Christians and Jesus in his ads to sucker in all good people looking for hope. God/Jesus will deal with Sam for preying on Christians. I told all my clients Cash Tanker is high risk and only use profits from GNI to invest because the interest rates are unusually high. All my clients understood the CT is a high risk investment and if Sam can actually turn 500k into 10 million in 60 days then we have a winner but if he cannot then make sure: DO NOT INVEST MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. There is only one safe investment in the world with little risk that is sports arbitrage trading. Be careful there are new companies offering high percentage returns and most likely they will run off with your money. Look at track record and history. You will find there is one company trustworthy out there in sports arbitrage trading.
Good luck out there and be careful of the HYIP scammers more of them popping up these days.
drfinance
crownzaucer says:
January 4, 2010 at 5:38 pm (UTC -5)
Okay paul, I really don’t get that one bit. Scott Kalechstein pimped Sam’s scam harder than anyone else out there, maybe with one exception, and that would be the slimy Brad Kamanski. Scott K led several people into an obvious ponzi scheme and then even when Sam prepared to run, he refused to wake up and continued to urge people to stick with Cash Tanker and have “FAITH” in this absurd illegal mess.
OH but I’M not supposed to criticize his stupidity because he’s a “good man”? because he writes “motivational” emails and performs music?? No way Paul. Scott Kalechstein isn’t getting off the hook by playing the Christian card. That’s not how the real world works.
You know if he really cared about “Jesus” and people as much as you claimed then he would have been more careful and done some basic Hyip and ponzi research before jumping into something so visibly fradulent and ridiculous. there is no mistake about it, cash tanker was one of the all time easy ponzi scams to identify before the crash. only a complete fool or greedy dream boy would even consider that what Sam claimed he was doing was logical.
So what do we really have here with Scott? just another shady hyip player that claims God and other people are his first priority, but then surrounds himself with dirty games of greed and lies. and people wonder why its so hard for others to accept religion when the “religious” act like a bunch of sleazos? lol
Unless Scott plans to reimburse every single person he brought into Sam’s trash club he deserves the exact thing that the champ was urging people to do with scumbag Brad Kamanski. it fell behind but i’ll go redig it up since the time has come for cash tanker victims to take some action.
crownzaucer says:
January 4, 2010 at 5:45 pm (UTC -5)
Here we go. this was originally posted in november by ponzi champ. the same actions can be taken against Brad Kamanski and Scott Kalechstein and anyone that referred people to the cash tanker scam.
IF YOU WERE REFERRED BY SOMEONE TO CASH TANKER AND LOST MONEY READ THIS!!!!!
After the Cash tanker ship sinks, if you were referred by Brad Kamanski and lose a significant amount of money as a direct result of listening to his reckless promoting and hype, you will want to seriously consider your legal options.
Brad Kamanski has received commission for his recruiting and therefore as a perpetrator of money laundering and fraud, by all legal terms, is liable for any losses you may suffer from his dangerous advice. Obtaining his identity and proof of negligence is as simple as running up a few Google searches. You’ll find his website with full name and number attached, scripts of promotion, and videos everywhere admitting his open participation in these scams.
I know a few people that have collected from lawsuits against ponzi promoters. Brad has laid everything out for you and made the step of organizing proof extremely simple. If a group of people discover they’ve been sent to the pit by Brad, they may want to go the class action route.
You can also file reports against Brad Kamanski for assisting fraud through the IFCC, SEC, and the IC3 government website. Don’t let reckless ponzi promoters walk out the open door, or they’ll just continue their ways.
Thomas says:
January 4, 2010 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5)
CT was filled with people pretending to be christians but not acting like it.. it’s not about what you say you are but how you act!! I wasnt referred by scott but we listened to him and he sure had a lot to say about sam.. would not be surprised if sam was extra buddy to him and gave me more than average CT member! I do wan t to consider options and will file reports for all big CT promoters this isn’t fair for us who lost money while they hoard off commission from sam……since they won’t take responsibility I guess i’ll take matters in my hands..
Jordy says:
January 5, 2010 at 6:42 pm (UTC -5)
Brad Kamanski actually referred me after I called him…his direct phone number was listed on the CT site believe it or not. I called and spoke directly to him. I do not believe he meant ill-will toward anyone. I do believe he was just as lured in and scammed by this “Sam” character as everyone else. He just went on to promote it based on all of “Sam’s” false guidance, lies, blasphemy, etc.
Personally, I set up an account and thankfully never did put an money into it. For those of you saying you “made money” in CT, take a look at all of those who said they have LOST money…and guess what? YOU have THEIR money. You did not “earn” anything. It was stolen from everyone else who never got any of anyone else’s money.
Folks, I’m sorry but I agree with the original story at the top of this page. ALL but about .001% of these “HYIPs” are pure and blatant SCAMS. I believe they should all be shut down by the FBI.
I set up the .org site only because I am a Christian and really do feel bad for everyone who lost out in this. What a shame. “Sam” used the name of Christ to financially rape individuals…something our Lord would entirely shun (remember Him in the temple knocking over the merchant tables?).
This “Sam” will receive his ultimate judgment one day. Unfortunately for all who lost, your hard-earned money is gone. And for those of you who “won”…just remember the ones who lost, because you are holding their money, not your own.
crownzaucer says:
January 5, 2010 at 9:39 pm (UTC -5)
Jordy, I agree with you 110% on what you said about Hyips and the people that profited from cash tanker. how many people have come here stating they made money and shrugged it off as if it’s no big deal that cash tanker went under because THEY made money. well i guarantee you its a big deal for the people that lost money because the only way people get ahead in ponzi schemes is by receiving what was stolen from others. there’s nothing worth being joyful in ponzi profits unless someone is really that heartless and selfish.
On your Brad Kamanski comment, I totally disagree. i’ve seen these types all over the net. No I don’t believe he was just some poor ignorant pal that believed the lies. why? because the guy pimped several other ponzis and gifting scams on his site that are so obviously illegal and unethical only a mentally challenged person could claim “ignorance” and expect people to really believe it. he may not have directly wished “ill-will” toward you but he acts like a total referral whore without taking any responsibility for the crap he recommends to people. funny how he had the audacity to come on here earlier and talk about God, what a joke. like that scam pimping old fart has a clue LOL.
If you don’t want to take action against Brad Kamanski hey that’s fine, it’s your right. but many have and many more will. they have every right to be angry and notify the authorities about Brad heavily abetting fraud. clearly the cash tanker stupidity wasn’t enough to convince Brad that it was time to grow up, otherwise he wouldn’t still be promoting clear scams on his site. the only way to stop people that greedy from bringing more people into other scams is to help make sure the government is aware of their pimping.
Jordy says:
January 5, 2010 at 11:22 pm (UTC -5)
I only knew of Brad from speaking to him briefly about CT. If he has shown these patterns then, yes, he needs to be held accountable.
It leads back to my original point…he “made alot of money” in referrals and whatnot, but that money came from everyone else’s pocket. That is a pure shame.
People really need a wake-up call about these scams disguised as “HYIP”. Think about the name itself: High Yield INVESTMENT Program. Yeah? Then why aren’t the big traders on Wall Street getting in all over these? Why aren’t these regulated by the FTC and all the other agencies if they are truly “investment” programs? The answer: Because they are scams.
No matter what “HYIP” a person gets involved with…even if just for a mere $5…the first $1 they “earn” was actually stolen from someone else.
Wake up call for the world: STOP getting involved in these…you are STEALING. If you are reading this and you have “earned even $1 from a “HYIP”, you could be charged with several felonies at the Federal level. You are in no better position than the scammer running the scam, and you are setting yourself up for FBI investigations and lengthy prison terms.
Keep the pressure on them crown…personally I’d like to see every HYIP shut down and the operators arrested and put away so they will stop their larceny.
Jordy says:
January 5, 2010 at 11:55 pm (UTC -5)
By the way…online investing can be fun and profitable and done in a respectable, and most importantly, LEGAL way. Just go to e-trade or Scottrade, or even forex.com and learn how to do it for yourself!
You won’t get 90% ROI (I can’t believe for the life of me that anyone would actually fall for that in the first place), but as you learn and make informed investments, you will begin to see a return.
You’ll have much more fun and you won’t be committing a crime!
I just did a review of the sites promoted on Brad Komanski’s website. Many of them look like they were built by a third grader to begin with. And every single site has the same concept…pay money, and get money from everyone else paying money. Pure scams, each and every one of them.
Ingar Paaske says:
January 6, 2010 at 12:37 pm (UTC -5)
Jason says:
December 31, 2009 at 10:39 am
Ingar Cheerleader finally shut up.
Thats a good sign!:)
Well Jason! You and Clown.. have not much to come up with since you both are only coming up with BS about others, without having any clue what you talk about.
I have never been a “cheerleader” and if you deny, please come up with a person that have been recruited by me.
The only case you have is to attach me, and others that have received money from CT. And then put on all the cases that you find convenient to blame us for.
You make your self people laughing of you….
crownzaucer says:
January 6, 2010 at 4:38 pm (UTC -5)
Ingar, out of all the Sam cheering whackjobs we’ve seen here, you are by far the most pathetic. after 6 days you come by to re paste an old post by jason and the only argument you have defending yourself is that we don’t specifically know anyone you recruited in CT?
Simply PATHETIC! we don’t have to prove you recruited anyone to show you’ve been a big knuckleheaded cheerleader the whole time, you’ve already demonstrated that yourself with all the sick Sam and CT cheering you posted on here earlier before the new year. you don’t have to “recruit” someone to be a cheerleader, you just have to brainlessly cheer on ponzis and that’s EXACTLY what you did time and time again! as to the rest of your crazy rant, beats the hell out of me what you were trying to say, as it’s hardly English. well anyway, nice try scam cheer boy, but you ain’t fooling anyone. you’re a scam praising joke and everyone here can see that.
Esgraff42 says:
January 6, 2010 at 9:30 pm (UTC -5)
Brad Kamanski is a fat oaf who doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself, He doesn’t know the first thing about safe investing and then when he does happen to get in a scam early he spends all his time bragging about how much of that scam profit he gives away, what a big loser.
I except what I did and the losses that come with it though I wish I had never even heard of serino, But Brad on the other hand continues to find new scams to feed on. He didn’t refer me to tanker but if he had you bet your life I’d be going after him, Such an ass and nothing but a peddler of scams.
Ingar Paaske says:
January 6, 2010 at 10:54 pm (UTC -5)
Hi Clown…, thanks for your reply, I love it. You makes my day here at this forum, you make me laugh.
Thanks again, for writing so much without exactly having anything to say. You are great, same level as Jason.
Keep on going guys, I love you!
crownzaucer says:
January 7, 2010 at 2:42 am (UTC -5)
That’s sad, Ingar, that all you do in this situation is laugh. there’s nothing funny about you feeding ponzis and stealing from other people. you have nothing to laugh about, scam boy.
We on the other hand have plenty to laugh at you for. between your belief that someone gives a damn about your nonsense posts on this blog and your pathetic attempt to construct English sentences, I don’t know what’s funnier.
crownzaucer says:
January 7, 2010 at 2:50 am (UTC -5)
Jordy, you have some great advice there. the only reason people would even think about playing ponzis is because they’re too lazy to learn about real investing. really if you just took time to learn some basics you can earn something. No, maybe not as much as these stupid Hyips advertise, but at least its stable and you’re MUCH LESS likely to lose everything.
I remember when I first started playing with the stock market and taught myself basics. I made 10% on month 1 and I hardly knew what i was doing. now i’m not recommending that everyone go out and do that today, because my strategy was different from the norm and you’d be dealing with a very different market today. but learning how to trade in legitimate markets pays off much higher long term than fooling around in pathetic ponzi scams.
Ingar Paaske says:
January 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm (UTC -5)
Hi Clown…! I talk about you and Jason, you are funny. I haven’t mentioned the situation you are part of, so don’t blame me for that!
Chris says:
January 7, 2010 at 1:32 pm (UTC -5)
I give up.. if sam was going to pay uss he would have by now. Lost over $ 1000 and not ever doing this kind of thing again.. what a waste
Jason says:
January 8, 2010 at 2:50 am (UTC -5)
Ingar
First of all please know that you are an idiot. Second of all you said YOu know that CT will come back..so what happened?? now you know its a ponzi..so instead of trying to say some nonsense that doesn’t even make sense just shut up.
IF you made profit with CT fine..so did I. But just dont try to kiss Sam’s ass when you know it’s gone
If Crown is a Clown to you..you are a real piece of shit hehehe
Sometimes I really wonder what you are thinking
Ingar Paaske says:
January 8, 2010 at 5:49 am (UTC -5)
Well Jason, the funny with you and Clown… are the fact that you never READ others comments, but have already made up your mind what you shall shit out of your mouths/fingers at the keyboard…
I have never mentioned in any sentence that ” I know that CT will come back ”
Please don’t put your frustration and anger to me without having any sense to do so.
The way you are communicating with people, only shows your absent of social-and emotional IQ.
When even Clown.. are able to complain over others people, me included, way to use the English language. Sorry, we are not all native English language users. But it seems you still understand me. Right?
Better for the environment, that you maybe should try to calm down a bit and be more serious.
Thanks!
crownzaucer says:
January 8, 2010 at 2:13 pm (UTC -5)
No Ingar, I don’t think any sensible person can understand you. all you ever post is a bunch of psycho rants in horribly broken English, what CAN be understood? lol
****licker says:
January 8, 2010 at 4:16 pm (UTC -5)
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Jason says:
January 9, 2010 at 12:20 am (UTC -5)
yes Ingar please learn proper English before you post your nonsense. You sound like an idiot even with a proper English..Imagine how you sound now with broken English
If I were you I would stop posting
Ingar Paaske says:
January 9, 2010 at 2:42 am (UTC -5)
“If I were you I would stop posting
”
Likewise Mr. Jason!
Even your “proper” English seems coming from a very stupid person…
Jason says:
January 9, 2010 at 11:57 am (UTC -5)
Now you have nothing to say because your friend Scam Serino is gone. You are a pathetic cheerleader that doesn’t even know what to do now after you realized Cash tanker was really gone. Or do you still believe Cash tanker is going to come back? lol
Marcus says:
January 9, 2010 at 5:56 pm (UTC -5)
Hey Everyone..,
I got this email from Scotty! Take a read.
It’s been a hard week for us Cash Tankers, especially the ones who have not yet given up hope.
Some people are getting more discouraged now that the wires did not come in last week. I am not. What my entity friend John said Tuesday night is that the wires are coming soon, and the site couild be up next week. From his way of viewing things, ‘soon’ could be anything from a few days to a few weeks . He is not too accurate on timing, but he is accurate on whether things are going to happen or not. And his confidence on this matter puts me at ease and helps tremendously.
John’s channel, June, is also invested in Cash Tanker, and has been keeping a close eye on things psychically. She also trades sessions with another very gifted channel and psychic names Rob, and he also joined Cash Tanker in September after reading the energy behind it a number of times. On a side note he is, curiously enough, of the Mormon faith. Imagine that, a Mormon psychic!!
So they are keeping tabs on things behind the scenes.
This is what she emailed me last night
And this is the email he is talking about,
Dear Scott:
Regarding bank wires, Rob and I learned last night that we have been focusing too much on the specific ‘when’ of it and that the timing is hard for our guides. They experience the wires as having already arrived, coming to banks any day now. The important point is that the payments will come; the ‘when’ of it is the only question. So Rob and I are stopping the specific ‘when’ questions because they aren’t helpful. All we really need to know is that the program will continue and that the payouts will come eventually. And that we are sure of.
We got last night that Sam has invested a good portion of the funds and it wouldn’t be smart to liquidate them. Apparently he has been using the deposits for payouts, generally, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but I don’t think he anticipated the growth of the program and therefore started coming up short at the beginning of December. He is working on solving the problem, and the program will continue, but the exact when of it we just don’t know.
The bottom line is that the website will be back up and the program will continue.
SOMEBODY PLEASE!! RELEASE MADOFF AND SEND THESE GUYS IN HIS PLACE., THEY ARE ON ANOTHER LEVEL OF RETARDATION
Rick says:
January 9, 2010 at 6:55 pm (UTC -5)
Hi to all,
I hate to say it but nobody held a gun to our heads to invest in this scam. The only person I blame is Sam for representing himself as a christian. I was completely taken in and I recommended CT to family members and some friends. I’ve gotten no peace of mind or financial gains from this site. I lost over $10,000 (seed amount of $1,500) when Sam pulled his disapearing act. As all of you, I was drawn in by the possibility of the carrot at the end of the stick.
It is over and we must move on, may God have mercy on Sam & his wife’s soles and may a place be reserved for Sam and his’s in Hell….Rick
jason says:
January 9, 2010 at 10:03 pm (UTC -5)
Scott is an idiot
let me say 1 last time
Cash Tanker Ponzi is GONE..Can you guys just get it over with..IT’s gone thats how hyips are gee, hello???? lol
jason says:
January 9, 2010 at 10:03 pm (UTC -5)
Scott is an idiot
let me say 1 last time
Cash Tanker Ponzi is GONE..Can you guys just get it over with..IT’s gone thats how hyips are gee, hello???? lol
Ponzi CHAMP says:
January 10, 2010 at 1:11 am (UTC -5)
Scott and his new psychic crew are quite the joke, yet at the same time, I’d think it would be hard for the victims of Cash Tanker to read such ludicrous lies and find any humor in it. How devastating it must be to receive emails from gullible, desperate people that keep insisting this simple ponzi scheme is going to somehow rise out of the grave.
Goodness sakes, StrictPay, the people that had been dealing with large portions of Sam’s community’s ‘investments’ even sent out a notice admitting that after full review of Sam Serino’s account, there had been no investments! All Sam was doing is collecting money in the processor accounts and then paying people as their returns came due. Nothing even tricky about it, just a classic ponzi scheme.
Clearly poor Scott and his psychic club are delusional and suffering from some nutty faith based bond to the Serino character, but they really need to snap out of it and give it a rest. Give the poor victims some peace, don’t keep jarring up false hope. Each time Scott feeds people this crap about Sam returning, it’s just opening up old wounds.
Cash Tanker is dead. Move on and don’t listen to the total nonsense being spread through emails.
Ingar Paaske says:
January 10, 2010 at 3:59 am (UTC -5)
“Jason says:
January 9, 2010 at 11:57 am
Now you have nothing to say because your friend Scam Serino is gone. You are a pathetic cheerleader that doesn’t even know what to do now after you realized Cash tanker was really gone. Or do you still believe Cash tanker is going to come back? lol”
Lol, yeah, that’s the right thing. I’m not “a friend” of mr. Serino. Where you get that from? Not from me.
I don’t care about CT, I have only posted that I’ve been paid, from that program, and are satisfied with it.
None of these programs, called hyips, bother me. I don’t care if they go down. I never promote any of them. And I would never trust any person that do it in any religious manner, such as Christians and Muslims for example.
That kind of people are not ready to take ANY responsibility for their behave, they let their god take the burden.
Have a nice day!
QuikKash says:
January 11, 2010 at 5:37 pm (UTC -5)
LOLOL what happened to all the stupid cheerleaders? We had Johnny Appleseed , chris , mike the mcdonalds boy , Jonesbones , GB777 , Razor , shoutit , Brad Kamanski , and MT all kissing sam’s rear end and hyping this up like little children happy about a handful of cookies.
Now no one wants to fess up to the truth. You are some of the most pathetic people on the planet and some of the last that deserve to have any money at all.
Jason says:
January 12, 2010 at 2:34 am (UTC -5)
QuickKash you missed Ingar:D
QuikKash says:
January 12, 2010 at 4:01 am (UTC -5)
Ingar is a whole other animal, the kind that doesn’t shut up and piles on the arrogance even when they don’t have anything worth bragging about. I don’t care about him, people can already see he is a fool.
I wonder though how many of those other nicks will go on to another scam and cheerlead the same way they did here? That is what we should be concerned with, the scam promoting weasels that cheer up a storm and leave without another word.
Linda says:
January 12, 2010 at 6:50 pm (UTC -5)
I’, not getting sucked in to the thoughts of cash tanker coming back,However it would be all to kind of sam to give us our money back. No more online investing for me this is to scary.
Ingar Paaske says:
January 13, 2010 at 1:31 am (UTC -5)
QuikKash!
You missed to mention yourself….
Yibeda...Yibeda says:
January 13, 2010 at 10:03 am (UTC -5)
What a heap of fucking shit… I am glad I was never involved
crownzaucer says:
January 13, 2010 at 10:25 am (UTC -5)
Poor ingar. it’s like watching a special ed kid preparing to cross a busy freeway. you know it’s not going to end well. lol
Jason says:
January 13, 2010 at 3:49 pm (UTC -5)
Linda CT wont come back
you have more chances of winning the lottery than that
and sam wont give you the money back
It’s a Guarantee that Sam is not coming back:)
crownzaucer says:
January 13, 2010 at 4:21 pm (UTC -5)
By the way Linda, online investing is only scary if you invest in stupid stuff. you placed your trust and money with some anonymous joker who said he could offer you 90% per month, more than real traders expect in a year, and he was somehow going to do this for small investors like you just because he was a Christian? what did you really expect in all this? did that really sound plausible to you?
I say that not to be a total ass but because I think most people who so easily threw their money at sam serino knew deep down how ridiculous his promises sounded. they just wanted to take the gamble. and there really isn’t a whole lot of comfort for people that fall for stupid scams. the money is swept away very quickly.
Sue says:
January 13, 2010 at 6:36 pm (UTC -5)
I have come to the conclusion that sam is a scammer, took me awhile, but I am getting on with other good investments that have been paying for over 2 years now. Not going in anymore rubbish ones, not going to listen to anyone who tells me that they know the leaders and they are good.
Jason says:
January 13, 2010 at 8:58 pm (UTC -5)
WOW Sue now you finally realize CT is a ponzi? lol
I knew that CT was a ponzi since it launched and that Sam is just another ponzi admin just like others. Investing is fine..thats up to you..just never become a cheerleader
riffroi4 says:
January 13, 2010 at 10:47 pm (UTC -5)
GRATE!! NOW how am i suppsosed to get my money back!??none of this would have even happened if IDIOTS DIDNT PROMOTE SCAM SHIT!!! HOPE ur happy ur all going to JAIL!
Ingar Paaske says: